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I insulted because Drasca misrepresented what I had said, either that or he simply didnt understand and flamed anyway.

I dont insult people for disagreeing with me, but dishonesty gets my goat.
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Ghost, I've never seen you "lose" or "agree to disagree" in a discussion, argument, or debate where you didn't end up flaming. I'm not saying that you've "lost" this one, I'm not even sure if this qualifies as a coherent "discussion". However, as much as you like to flame away at those whom you feel are "dishonest", you don't seem to enter discussion with a willingness to help others learn or see your point. Enlightened discussion isn't about flailing away madly until someone else agrees with you - it's about leading people to see the merits of your argument. Sometimes it takes some extra effort - especially when there are occasional "communication" glitches on your part. If you were really interested in enlightened discussion, I think that you would choose more often to elaborate on your points rather than resorting to instant flames as soon as someone disagrees with you (even if they DO disagree as a result of being ill-informed or from what you like to call "dishonest" perspectives. How many of those that you claim are being dishonest do you think actually realize that their premises are flawed/merely semantic/etc.?)

Enlightened discussion is pleasant and helpful for all involved. It may be heated, but it is never disrespectful. If the discussion is so bad here, if your ideas are wasted on such a bunch of fools, then why do you stick around? Is this really your idea of a good time? You're a smart guy, and I can't understand your insistence on belligerence. I enjoy the company of the lounge, and I enjoy the chance to discuss things in a reasonably "enlightened" setting. Lots of people here know lots of things that I don't, and, in general, I'm willing to be courteous when I disagree with them so that if I'm wrong, they'll take the time to show me why.