04-06-2006, 08:46 PM
Ghostiger,Apr 6 2006, 06:35 AM Wrote:Also drop the inference to racism, loser its a 2 bit insulting trick to discourage people from disagreeing with you.
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oh? if that's a fact it sure hasn't stopped anybody. I welcome the discussion.
To clarify, my statements regarding racism, xenophobia, and ethnocentrism were meant only as a warning on how the labling of genes as BAD or GOOD can easily be used by someone to justify or rationalize their own beliefs and how misinformation could then be propogated onto the public.
I'll give what i feel is a very pertinent example: The Bell Curve written by Richard J. Herrnstein and Charles Murray and published in 1996 has had a large impact on the way people look at education and even how education and research is funded. The overall point of the book was that Inteligence is a genetically derived attribute and that the class structure and social stratification in america is based on these inherant attributes in people.
Now where's the problem? Well first any good scientist or researcher will tell you any result you get from an experiment will be derived from the operatinal definitions you set prior to collecting the data etc. In the case of The Bell Curve a highly impactful OD would be "what is intelligence?" The authors choose to define intelligence by a purely american, middle-upper class, predominantly white definition. Obviously if you were to hold other people from different cultures/countries to this standard they would come out as extremely unintelligent.
secondly, despite what the authors attempt to portray there is really no concrete way in which we can accurately define intelligence. there is also no research to suggest that genetics plays any direct role in ones intelligence. (this is where nature and nurture come into play.)
So what we have here is a kind of circular logic. The authors believed that different races genetics attributed to their intellectual prowess. they let their bias effect their research in how they defined their operational definitions. and then used the same research to justify and rationalize the belief they had all along.