02-04-2006, 07:48 PM
Bolty,Feb 4 2006, 12:47 PM Wrote:Griselda's right, Occhi. Islam isn't the problem; it's the maniacs who use it as an excuse to perpetuate violence and hate that is. -BoltyBolty:
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Islam isn't a problem, Muslims are. ;) (Reference is to an Old Peanuts strip: "I love humanity, it's people I can't stand." Linus. Works for any subgroup of "people.") In case there is any confusion, that was a joke. :P
Gris, Bolty
The both of you have misinterpreted a very brief and direct coment.
My free speech comment had nothing to do with Gris' chastising me for being caustic in my remarks regarding Muslims, it was strictly On Topic. I could certainly have made my point without being so coarse. Well played, Gris.
To repeat, the Free Speech issue is explicitly the core of what this topic is about, not about anyone's posting exercise on the Lounge. There was no intent, of any sort, to play the idiotic Free Speech whinge about a moderator's reproof to a poster.
I am surprised that you thought I'd try that kind of garbage with you. I didn't and I won't, not in this lifetime. You know my old Free Speech rant, and if my coarse exercise of it irritated Gris enough to comment, then her role demands her to levy that reproof for my exposing a coarse position.
It has ever been thus on the Lounge.
Bolty, you are an American, and this Free Speech thing might possibly concern you.
If you note the recent Reuters news release, the US government spokesman came out in support of the Muslim whingers and hype mongers. That action is a direct political attack on our faithful ally's exercise of sovereignty and protection of their rights to free speech. The Danish have people in Afghanistan helping Operation Enduring Freedom, loyal allies they, so Washington gives them a nice Starcraft FFA backstab in the greater war of symbols, media, and image. That is low.
It isn't just hypocrisy, it is betrayal, particularly when we protect free speech, under sub category Art, when people paint pictures of Jesus being urinated on, and the complaints of those offended are sneered at.
What I'd like to see the Danish do is send a terse reply to Washington: hey there, Buckaroos, read your own Constitution, if your President and his cabinet can read and comprehend words that large and complicated. They are probably too much the diplomats to do that, more is the pity.
Third time is a charm, this topic is about Free Speech, and people who wish to restrict it for allegedly religious reasons (hype masters in Muslim garb) or for political reasons directly opposed to the Constitution certain people swore to support and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. (The clueless in Washington.) It's in the President's oath of office, and everyone in Congress, that itallicized bit.
Occhi
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete