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Had to happen eventually - pjnow - 12-19-2003
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games...reut/index.html
This would be much more panic inducing in the game company world if it were it coming from anywhere else but China but I can still see Blizzard's Lawyers taking a long had look at the ruling.
Not sure if this discussion belongs in the Tavern or the Lounge.
Had to happen eventually - Rhydderch Hael - 12-19-2003
Let's focus on one interesting pivot to the whole thing: the mention of "pay-as-you-play". The plaintiff had to pay money to participate. The company gained revenue and continued to gain revenue from his participation.
Now, when you play and you lose within the established rules of the game, there's nothing you can do about reclaiming your purchased participation. You don't go complaining to the clerk at the arcade prize counter if your Pac-Man character got beat down by a bunch of pastel-colored apparitionsâ you knew the rules of the game, and your failure came about simply because you risked and found out you suck at PacMan. But when the game fails outside the parameters of ruled and fair gameplay (someone cheated), someone other than the gameplayer is liable for fault. More often, it is the gamemaker or the cheater themselves.
Had to happen eventually - pjnow - 12-19-2003
Quote:Let's focus on one interesting pivot to the whole thing: the mention of "pay-as-you-play". The plaintiff had to pay money to participate. The company gained revenue and continued to gain revenue from his participation.
Trure, so in the current ( stress current ) Diablo 2 landscape this ruling wouldn't necessarily be the basis of action.
However - I'm just gonna guess here - I'd think that Blizzard ( and others ) will look long and hard at this case when setting up or moving (a current free play system ) to a pay for play, possibly affecting project timelines for upcoming titles.
Another question to be asked is how seriously anyone is going to take a ruling from the Chinese legal system....
Had to happen eventually - Nystul - 12-19-2003
The compensation received is understandable. The compensation requested is a joke. Apparently video games are not meant to be played for fun, but to be an exchange of time and money for valuable virtual commodities. Perhaps they should be renamed video jobs.
Had to happen eventually - Occhidiangela - 12-19-2003
See "strict negligence" and "strict tort" rulings, where you are liable "just because."
Had to happen eventually - moget? - 12-19-2003
Hi,
Two random things:
Quote:Beijing Arctic Ice Technology Development Co Ltd,
Wow, thats a long name, eh? And...
Quote:...saying it could not give out a player's private details, it said.
Just a little thing I couldn't help but notice whilst reading. C'mon CNN, where's yer' grammar?!
Had to happen eventually - Brimstone - 12-19-2003
Nystul,Dec 19 2003, 02:52 PM Wrote:Perhaps they should be renamed video jobs.hmm, Star Wars Galaxies, anyone? :D
Had to happen eventually - AtomicKitKat - 12-20-2003
The compensation given seems adequate. I disagree with the "psychological trauma" crap thrown out by American courts, but in this case, I'd suggest the company return the guy's stolen property, together with mild compensation(exp? gold? not gm only stuff of course), and of course, removal of the cheater(no need to ID the guy to others, just remove the guy quietly. On the other hand, if your contract with players says you can terminate their account at anytime for whatever reason, you can feel free to ID the guy to the cops) Think of it this way, this guy has hacked into another player's account, and cost you a small bundle, possibly in court fees as well. He's a liability more than an asset, even if he pays his monthly fees.