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horcking carver vs baba - bernard shakey - 01-27-2004
I have a lvl 67 barb with 358 mf. 101 from my baba and ryme.(with 2 to find item=19%chance to drop item)
I have a +4 heart carver on wep.switch (6 to find item=35%chance to drop item)
if i use the heart carver am i forsing more items to drop with what would amount to a negligable loss in mf, or should i add them togeather(101 +19=120, 0+35=35 baba and ryme win)
anyone know for sure how the find item %is handled?
*sorry for some reason this didn't go through spell check
horcking carver vs baba - adeyke - 01-27-2004
MF is a passive bonus. Every time you kill a monster and it drops an item, MF will increase the chance that the item is unique/set/rare/magic.
Find item is a skill you can use on corpses to have a chance at another drop. If you never use it, it doesn't do anything. If you do use it, you have that % chance of getting a drop from the same TC as when the monster was first killed. MF does work on this second drop.
With your numbers...
Your base chance of getting a second drop is 19% and your base MF is 257.
If you use your Heart Carver, you'll have a 35% chance of success instead of 19%. That's an 84% increase in items of all kinds from Find Item.
If you use your Rhyme and Ali Baba, you'll have +358% MF instead of +257%. However, there are diminishing returns formulas for rares, set items and uniques. So you'll really have 28% more magic items, 16% more rares, 14% more set items and 9% more uniques. The MF will also not increase your number of total items; it only increases your chances of an item being higher-quality. This set-up also has GF, but you apparently didn't consider this the important point.
I'd say that, in your case, the Heart Carver is a much better choice. However, do note that the Heart Carver wouldn't do anything for you when you kill monsters. It's only when you use the find item skill that it does anything.
horcking carver vs baba - bernard shakey - 01-27-2004
Thats pretty much as I thought it was.
kill em with the baba hork em with the carver.
only problem is know i need a third wep switch
to quickly sliver the little buggers with
oh well such is life
thanks for the help