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The Pirate Bay - Taem - 04-17-2009 I was just on the Pirate Bay's website today and saw this, "Triumphant Win" sign posted along with a blip about winning bigger in the end. Curious as to what they were talking about, I checked the news and saw this: Quote:The Pirate Bay Verdict and the Future of File-Sharing So, how is this a triumphant win for The Pirate Bay founders? And for people who keep getting mad at me for posting an entire article and the link, here is my logic because I'm sick of hearing it: I post the link to validate my claims, and I post the entire article because eventually, most news links on the net go dead, usually after a few months, so if the conversation is ever revisited and the initial article is gone, the conversation is fruitless. The Pirate Bay - eppie - 04-17-2009 Quote:I was just on the Pirate Bay's website today and saw this, "Triumphant Win" sign posted along with a blip about winning bigger in the end. Curious as to what they were talking about, I checked the news and saw this: Some more reading: http://www.thelocal.se/18908.html http://www.thelocal.se/18930/20090417/ The Pirate Bay - --Pete - 04-17-2009 Hi, Quote:I was just on the Pirate Bay's website today and saw this, "Triumphant Win" sign posted along with a blip about winning bigger in the end. . . .They didn't get squished like an annoying bug, so they figured they won? Couldn't find their web site (didn't try very hard) so I didn't get their side of the story (if any). These events point out the stupidity of those who do not or cannot adapt to evolving technology. Without addressing whether 'sharing' of intellectual property is right or wrong, the fact remains that it is trivially possible. Rather than trying to force obsolete and ineffective laws to cover situations way beyond their original scope, those who want to stop the 'piracy' need to reexamine the problem and their proposed solutions. Quote:And for people who keep getting mad at me for posting an entire article and the link, here is my logic because I'm sick of hearing it: I post the link to validate my claims, and I post the entire article because eventually, most news links on the net go dead, usually after a few months, so if the conversation is ever revisited and the initial article is gone, the conversation is fruitless.Fair enough. However, the reason those links go dead is because no one cares about that subject anymore. Which is the same reason that the thread usually does not get resurrected. Suit yourself;) --Pete The Pirate Bay - Taem - 04-17-2009 Wow, this is crazy! I know it's not a supreme court ruling, however if the ruling sticks, it could potentially label every site who has links to "illegal" material - i.e. google amongst many others - liable in Sweden. If this case goes all the way to the supreme court, there is no way the government can win it - too many parties with special interests involved IMO. The Pirate Bay - roguebanshee - 04-17-2009 Quote:Couldn't find their web site (didn't try very hard) so I didn't get their side of the story (if any).thepiratebay.org? The Pirate Bay - Nystul - 04-17-2009 I didn't make it through the entire 25 minute press conference, but I'm pretty sure the Epic Win is just wishful thinking about how this is going to turn out on appeal. It's important not to gloss over the details and make broad assumptions about the precedent this could set. I don't know, for example, what kind of track record The Pirate Bay has with regards to removing things at the request of the copyright holder. Even choosing a name like "The Pirate Bay" might make it a bit harder to convince a judge that you are a legitimate search engine rather than a warez provider. The Pirate Bay - Bob the Beholder - 04-18-2009 Quote:I didn't make it through the entire 25 minute press conference, but I'm pretty sure the Epic Win is just wishful thinking about how this is going to turn out on appeal. The epic win is that it took the government three years to come up with a bull#$%& charge that you could label on pretty much any website, service, etc.. They got nothing, and they're going, "Yeaaah, well, let's just say it's this, massively trump up the sentence, and hope it scares 'em into stopping." And it ain't working. Oh, and the track record the Pirate Bay has for removing copyrighted files, is that they don't have the copyrighted files on their servers, and when they get emails to remove things or cease and desist letters they post them on the site and mock the sender publicly. Here's the archive. The Pirate Bay - Nystul - 04-18-2009 Quote:The epic win is that it took the government three years to come up with a bull#$%& charge that you could label on pretty much any website, service, etc.. They got nothing, and they're going, "Yeaaah, well, let's just say it's this, massively trump up the sentence, and hope it scares 'em into stopping." And it ain't working. It would be a logical thing for them to say if they had just gotten an acquittal. Ringing the victory bell right after you are sentenced to a year in prison and millions of dollars in fines is pure denial. There is no guarantee that they will get out of this, and it also leaves them in a more vulnerable position for any civil suits they will get slapped with. Maybe they should have been more like Google with regards to cease and desist orders... The Pirate Bay - Archon_Wing - 04-20-2009 Quote:So, how is this a triumphant win for The Pirate Bay founders? Because the site is still running as we speak.;)Well ok, that's not really a win, maybe they are just hoping for one. More likely, it's just another troll. The Pirate Bay - eppie - 04-28-2009 The lawyer of the pirate bay wants a new proces. It turns out that the judge who made the verdict is a member of several swedish organizations that fight for sharper copyright laws on internet. In other words, he was not impartial. I think they have a good point here. The Pirate Bay - Taem - 04-29-2009 Quote:The lawyer of the pirate bay wants a new proces. It turns out that the judge who made the verdict is a member of several swedish organizations that fight for sharper copyright laws on internet. In other words, he was not impartial. At least ground for an appeal, and a new judge. If this was in America, could be the equivalent of overturning the verdict. Interesting to say the least. |