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4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - nobbie - 10-12-2005 --> Clicky! Quote:4.5 million copies of EULA-compliant spyware 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - savaughn - 10-12-2005 nobbie,Oct 12 2005, 07:48 AM Wrote:--> Clicky!Under US law (unfortunately) not only is this behavior legal, but since it can be considered a security feature it's use is protected and the information published in this blog is actually actionable. Under DMCA, Blizz can actually sue this guy for telling people about their spyware. 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - nobbie - 10-12-2005 savaughn,Oct 12 2005, 03:33 PM Wrote:Under US law (unfortunately) not only is this behavior legal, but since it can be considered a security feature it's use is protected and the information published in this blog is actually actionable.That's why I've provided a quote of the blog text ;) 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - Quark - 10-12-2005 1) This started back with 1.6 or longer ago. Blizzard even already responded to it. 2) You notice a key component missing in his whole thread? Info transmitted back to Blizzard. "Warden" knows just as much about you as Windows does, likewise Blizzard is receiving as little of that info as Microsoft does. 3) Went digging deeper, and he originally posted this to a wow hacker forum. His blog post doesn't detail his entire research. Namely, the point of this research was why were people still banned when they installed a "blocker" for Warden. The first conclusion was that there may be different versions of Warden at any time, and it can also be updated at any time, causing their blocker to fail. The second conclusion was that their future open source cheats will nearly prevent the Warden from detection since self-compiled versions will come out differently. That is, of course, if you know how to compile software yourself and don't share it with anyone else. Oh, yeah: Quote:WHEN RUNNING, THE WORLD OF WARCRAFT CLIENT MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH WORLD OF WARCRAFT. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY "ADDON" OR "MOD," THAT IN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT'S SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE; (ii) ALLOWS USERS TO MODIFY OR HACK THE WORLD OF WARCRAFT INTERFACE, ENVIRONMENT, AND/OR EXPERIENCE IN ANY WAY NOT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT; OR (iii) INTERCEPTS, "MINES," OR OTHERWISE COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM OR THROUGH WORLD OF WARCRAFT. IN THE EVENT THAT WORLD OF WARCRAFT DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, BLIZZARD MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR (B) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER SECTION 6 OF THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER. So this is Blizzard following up on what you agreed to when you started playing. 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - kandrathe - 10-12-2005 Besides, who runs Quickbooks when precious memory is needed to run WOW. :D Don't want snooping when WOW is running, then close your apps and sensitive browser windows. Typically, when I run WOW, only Teamspeak and a Browser window to Thottbot, or the Lounge are open. 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - savaughn - 10-12-2005 kandrathe,Oct 12 2005, 10:58 AM Wrote:Besides, who runs Quickbooks when precious memory is needed to run WOW. :D Don't want snooping when WOW is running, then close your apps and sensitive browser windows. Typically, when I run WOW, only Teamspeak and a Browser window to Thottbot, or the Lounge are open.See, that's so weird. I always like to have an open browser window to my bank account, my PayPal account open, my IRS tax info up, and a document open that uses my WoW password as the filename. I thought everybody did that...? 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - Zarathustra - 10-14-2005 Maybe I'm naive... but I don't care. I really don't care if Blizzard knows who I'm talking to on MSN, AIM, or ICQ. I don't care if they know where I'm shopping, or which web site I'm looking at while I'm making a long hippogryph flight. Privacy and freedom are at one end of a sliding scale, with security at the other end. In a game where so many internet jerks are going to try and cheat any way they can, I'll gladly let the slider go more towards security. Just means I can't do any work on where to stash the bodies while I"m playing WoW. *shrugs* 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - Concillian - 10-14-2005 Zarathustra,Oct 14 2005, 10:10 AM Wrote:Privacy and freedom are at one end of a sliding scale, with security at the other end. In a game where so many internet jerks are going to try and cheat any way they can, I'll gladly let the slider go more towards security. Somewhat true, I mean we're already trusting them with our credit card info and address, right? 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - MongoJerry - 10-14-2005 Concillian,Oct 14 2005, 11:19 AM Wrote:Somewhat true, I mean we're already trusting them with our credit card info and address, right? I gave them a fake address. I don't want them to know where I hid the bodies. 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - Artega - 10-15-2005 MongoJerry,Oct 14 2005, 04:40 PM Wrote:I gave them a fake address. I don't want them to know where I hid the bodies. I use an enzyme composite. I just flush the remaining fluid down the toilet. No body-hiding hassle that way. 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - nobbie - 10-26-2005 Well, Blizzard/Vivendi have just won this year's "Big Brother Award": http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/65374 (Article requires German language knowledge) Congratulations! ;) 4.5 Million Copies of EULA-Compliant Spyware - NiteFox - 10-27-2005 MongoJerry,Oct 14 2005, 08:40 PM Wrote:I don't want them to know where I hid the bodies.I do, I'm looking for a good spot to dump a few troublesome corpses. Edit: Ya rly, I do post odd things when I know my 'net usage is being monitored :P Edit2: Amusingly, as soon as I posted that edit, the lady in charge of this entire operation called the IT guy into the server office <_< |