• Phase 1 Jeklik -- just everyone but melee stay away and together. Periodic charges happen but she returns to the tank (tank do not chase). The AoE silence never hit any of the ranged attackers this way, and we were able to do our jobs. Staying together helps ensure the bats are properly gathered up for AoE. They assigned all shamans/spare melee to help gather the bats for AoE but I think if you're together it shouldn't be a big deal (they're headed for the healers anyway).<>
  
• I have a hard time keeping 3 mages alive during AoE. We had three mages all night. Up until we went into the spider area we had two priests and no problems. Once it was just me, it seemed like one of them was going to die against every pull of those nasty spiders.<>
  
• One way to kill Mar'li (I'm sure there are others). Another very long fight (I used inner focus twice so I know it was long).<>
  [st]Some of the things they do I think we might do well to consider emulating. For example, hopefully Alram can explain how they assigned CC because it seemed to go very quickly. They also keep target selection for DPS very simple: if it doesn't have a hunter's mark (from designated hunter) and two sunders, you don't hit it. I thought Lurkers/Lost Souls were very good about our CC and trash mob clearing but this did simplify things for new people. They used two warriors, alternating which one would break CC on each mob in turn (not that that would be important but they felt it gave them more efficiency).
  
  At any rate, I broke into Friendly with Zandalar Tribe. I need 5 Bloodscalp Coins (have 1) and 5 Sandfury Coins (have 2), 2 Yellow Bijous (have none), and a Primal Hakkari Stanchion for my bracers.
  
  Place and event(s) TBD 2/24
  
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Conc         (60 Warrior)
Durambar     (60 Warrior)
Fazuul       (60 Druid)
Rogoll       (60 Rogue)
Marntruehorn (60 Hunter)
Mogoraindyn  (60 Shaman)
Octord       (60 Warlock)
Yuri         (60 Mage)

Quote:Hi,
I'll send you a longer more detailed email later; my time is limited atm.
1. We like you guys and would like to do a weekly raid with you.
2. I am learning that this takes a lot of coordination, time and effort.&nbsp; I think it would help if we had a forum where all our members could go and read up on particulars. I'd be happy to use your website when you get one, or you can use ours or we can use a neutral forum. Thepumpkinking.com has been offered to us as a neutral site for joint posting of our guilds if you like.
3. There are ways in which we can improve&nbsp; our efficiency and effectiveness in large raids in ZG--more on that in a later email.
4. On 2/24 we will not have our main priest, Necrali. If you can bring 2 priests we can still do ZG, otherwise we might need to go elsewhere.

Quote:Some of the things they do I think we might do well to consider emulating. For example, hopefully Alram can explain how they assigned CC because it seemed to go very quickly. They also keep target selection for DPS very simple: if it doesn't have a hunter's mark (from designated hunter) and two sunders, you don't hit it. I thought Lurkers/Lost Souls were very good about our CC and trash mob clearing but this did simplify things for new people. They used two warriors, alternating which one would break CC on each mob in turn (not that that would be important but they felt it gave them more efficiency).

VoiceMan,Feb 24 2006, 02:27 PM Wrote:As a result, we didn't really us a Main Assist, as we assisted the tanks.&nbsp; I think we as a group are so used to using a MA that we may want to keep that, but I did like the pace at which the raid was able to move that way - assign CC targets, and then follow the tanks, which alternated their tanking duties every other mob.&nbsp;
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Concillian,Feb 24 2006, 06:00 PM Wrote:Well with the CTRA MT windows, you don't really need an MA in these cases, as long as you know which to follow. 

MA is more important in 5 man content, where a tank is swapping targets.  In a raid environment you have a tank on each target that isn't CC'd, so an MA isn't really necessary so much as a "DPS call".  Assigning someone to CTRA announce DPS On / Off may be a better overall option for raiding.

We are trained so well for 5 man content that we have a bit of re-learning to go through for raid type content, I think.
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Concillian,Feb 24 2006, 05:11 PM Wrote:So, do we have enough Lost Souls to fill the slots for ZG?&nbsp;

Even if we only have 16 we can hit Venoxis and work on our group skills on trash, trying to speed up pulls in ways similar to those Alram suggested (tank swapping, auto assignment of sheep, etc...)&nbsp; Seems trivial, but I think it would be a very important item to work on, as it is a weakness we've hand (I have to admit to some moments of boredom last week).
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VoiceMan,Feb 24 2006, 03:49 PM Wrote:Looks good to me.&nbsp; I think 15-16 can take down Venoxis, if we're on the ball, but I don't think I would try anything beyond that.&nbsp; We really need 18-20 in order to do too much in ZG beyond Venoxis, I think.&nbsp; At least until we're pretty familiar with the encounters.&nbsp; And I know that most of us in both guilds still have gear desires in places like DM, LBRS, UBRS, Scholo, Strat, etc.&nbsp; So if we don't have enough tonight, we can try Venoxis a couple of times, and then go do something else.
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