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Not sure how we'll COPE - Occhidiangela - 05-18-2006 Communications Opportunity, Promotion, and Enhancement Act (COPE Act) This "Congressional Work In Progress" is the subject of some debate. A site called "savetheinternet" that is running an online petition :rolleyes: Yeah, those work . . . NOT! I understand that there is a lot of "custom and practice" in how the internet is run, and that the FCC and statute have had some trouble staying up to date. I don't understand why there is such a perceived need to legislate the internet. OK, Big Brother want's to PWN you, but other than that, it's very open nature is IMO ideal for the "thriving on chaos" approach to enetrpeneurship and business, among other things, not to mention freer speech than the Fourth Estate exercises. Any of you more clued in on this? A current House Resolution discussed here. http://www.techlawjournal.com/cong109/bill...rm/20060327.pdf Some FCC language. Playing catch-up isn't easy, and it is easy to screw up while doing so. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/atta...CC-05-151A1.pdf Some tech savvy, and law savvy, folks discuss some of the above in layman's terms. http://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2006/20060330b.asp Me, I am for the more chaotic internet. If the Gov't wants to exploit its features to hunt down pedophiles and other nefarious sorts, I'd rather they did it by getting "net smart" rather than passing more (needless IMO) draconian statutes that play the old "screw everyone for the sake of the 2% club who are abusers and miscreants" game. My experience with zero tolerance BS in school systems, and my experience in the military's version of freqently draconian and counterproductive regulation color my view. I am not a child pornographer, Congress, please quit treating me and most internet denizens as though we were when you consider internet policies for the FCC. Your thoughts? This COPE deal potentially influences the future of such places as the Lounge, I think. Occhi Not sure how we'll COPE - Chesspiece_face - 05-18-2006 Occhidiangela,May 18 2006, 04:15 PM Wrote:Communications Opportunity, Promotion, and Enhancement Act (COPE Act) Is this the same proposal that the communication giants (verizon, comcast, bellsouth, etc) have been trying to ram through legislation that would allow the corporations to keep tabs on each and every action we make on the internet? As well as allow them to operate their ISPs as if they were private networks? if it is the same proposal than the idea of this being a means to hunt down child pornographers etc is just a red herring. what this would do is allow the ISP's to control what we can access across their networks. you have road runner for your isp and want to read a news site? well you're choice of sites that they allow access to is CNN.com. if you want to read a news site of a competing company there would be nothing stopping them from limiting your bandwidth while accessing that site or just blocking it completley. also it allows these corporations to create a hierarchal internet giving preferable access to those who pay higher prices. This opens a whole can of worms where they could limit the amount of emails you can send each month, limit what you can access, etc. "Not happy with your limited internet access and slow speeds while browsing our competitors sites?!? Time to upgrade to our Platinum service. For only 99$ a month you get unlimited email! Full unrestricted access to over 20,000 more websites (*see attached list). And the ability to block unwanted spam mail!" or in other words we get raked over the coals for the exact same services we have now. Edit: Yeah it looks like COPE is the same load of crap. Baltimore Sun Article Older article from The Nation. Not sure how we'll COPE - Chesspiece_face - 05-18-2006 Occhidiangela,May 18 2006, 04:15 PM Wrote:A site called "savetheinternet" that is running an online petition :rolleyes: Yeah, those work . . . NOT! When you've got ninja's on your side it just might work. Ask a Ninja: Net Neutrality Not sure how we'll COPE - Drasca - 05-27-2006 One more wrinkle to the NSA spying on US citizens scandal: Quote:PDF documents from AT&T attorneys reveal details confirming previous allegations of NSA wiretapping http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2558 Not sure how we'll COPE - theo - 05-27-2006 http://www.savetheinternet.com/ I signed the petition. :shuriken: Not sure how we'll COPE - Drasca - 06-23-2006 Eww eww eww eww http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2968 Quote:AT&T's updated policy has an impact on the company's 7 million Internet and video customers Not sure how we'll COPE - Munkay - 06-23-2006 Quote:"While your account information may be personal to you, these records constitute business records that are owned by AT&T," I love this reasoning. "Well sir, yes your information is private and confidential, but see if we write it down on this piece of paper over here, see like its written on your service contract, its a business record. We own all our own business records. So you see sir, its not your information, its our information on our business records." :wacko: Not sure how we'll COPE - Chesspiece_face - 07-04-2006 Down with net neutrality! So everyone can have their own personal intranets. DUHHHHHHHHH Don't forget people: this isn't a truck! there are tubes involved. Not sure how we'll COPE - --Pete - 07-05-2006 Hi, Quote:Don't forget people: this isn't a truck! there are tubes involved.Anyone who *wants* public office is by that desire a poor choice for any office. But with sufficient ignorance and arrogance, any jackass can be (and most are) a Senator. Then they get to make decisions about matters that are so far beyond their mental abilities it's like letting the baby drive the family car. But who are the bigger idiots? The jackasses we've voted for, or us for voting for them? Once again, a country gets the government it deserves. An ignorant, apathetic, self centered, avaricious people will get just the scum that fills fifty state and one national capitols in what was once a great country. If ignorance begets ignorance, then I for one fear for future generations. --Pete Not sure how we'll COPE - Occhidiangela - 07-05-2006 Quote:Down with net neutrality! So everyone can have their own personal intranets.If he had compared the Internet to pipelines, oil distribution networks, and data warehouses, he would have had a more credible in analogy for all of his technical dumbacity. ;) Occhi PS: dumbacity is the opposite of sagacity. :rolleyes: Not sure how we'll COPE - Drasca - 07-21-2006 Hurray for the good guys! Quote:A federal judge has rejected a motion by the US government and AT&T to dismiss a lawsuit against AT&T, which was accused by the Electronic Frontier Foundation of assisting the National Security Agency in eavesdropping on Americans. The lawsuit was originally filed against AT&T on January 31, 2006. The US government attempted to have the lawsuit thrown out because it potentially jeopardized the war on terror and may unintentionally reveal state secrets. The decision by a US District Court Judge in San Francisco will allow the EFF's class action lawsuit against AT&T to continue. Quote:"AT&T cannot seriously contend that a reasonable entity in its position could have believe that the alleged domestic dragnet was legal," US District Court Judge Vaughn Walker said. http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3433 --Daily tech report http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...gy/15084345.htm --Original rejection article http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/308_ord..._to_dismiss.pdf --official orders of US State District Court for Northern California in 72 pages That judge seems competent, and I am so ($*&(*& glad, because having liberties taking from under me without knowledge nor court challenge to balance federal power is just insane. Not sure how we'll COPE - Drasca - 07-22-2006 One step back:President Bush Blocks Probe into NSA Wire Tapping Quote:A report in the Washington Post said that President Bush blocked an internal investigation into the controversial NSA wire tapping program that was being put together by the Office of Professional Responsibility. The OPR launched an investigation into the NSA wire tapping program to see whether or not there were questionable activities. The wire tapping program was launched after 9/11 but Congress and the Bush administration has been arguing over its legality since. Another grab of power by exec branch removing counterbalances via self investigation. I'm growing up, and the world is far more insane than I've ever previously imagined. Not sure how we'll COPE - kandrathe - 07-22-2006 Quote:Another grab of power by exec branch removing counterbalances via self investigation. I'm growing up, and the world is far more insane than I've ever previously imagined.Oh, well, you never met J. Edgar Hoover then either. |