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Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - shoju - 10-06-2009 Quote:All across the lands of Northrend, many battles have been fought against the vile Scourge. Countless lives have been lost since the Alliance and Horde first reached the frozen wastes, but the champions of Azeroth continue to march forward. Now Icecrown Citadel, the cornerstone of the Scourge's power and the home base of the Lich King, is their final target. Tirion Fordring and the Argent Crusade have forged an alliance with Darion Mograine and the Knights of the Ebon Blade to form the Ashen Verdict. The strongest combatants of this coalition, along with the champions of the Alliance and Horde, will lead the charge against the citadel. So 12 encounters. 1) Marrowgar 2) Lady Deathwhisper 3) Airship Event 4) Unnamed Death Knight. (blizzcon suggests this will be Saurfang the Younger) 5) Sindragosa 6) Valithria Dreamwalker 7) Festergut 8) Rotface 9) Professor Putricide 10) San'layn Princes 11) Queen of the San'Layn 12) The Lich King Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - Lissa - 10-06-2009 Quote:So 12 encounters. Rotface and Festergut are probably a single encounter. Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - shoju - 10-06-2009 Quote:Rotface and Festergut are probably a single encounter. Then what is the 12th encounter. I doubt that they would hold back the name of a fight. Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - Lissa - 10-07-2009 Quote:Then what is the 12th encounter. I doubt that they would hold back the name of a fight. Well, if you split things out the following way, you will still get 12: Marrowgar Lady Deathwhisper Airship Event Unnamed Death Knight Sindragosa & Valithria Dreamwalker (ala Kalecgos encounter in SWP) Festergut & Rotface Professor Putricide Prince Valanar Prince Keleseth Prince Taldaram Queen of the San'Layn The Lich King Yes this means that one wing will have 4 encounters while the other two will have two and one respectively. And I'm not sure it would be Saurfang the Younger as all the Alliance and Horde dead were incinerated by Alexstraza and here flight at the Wrath Gate. Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - shoju - 10-07-2009 Quote:Well, if you split things out the following way, you will still get 12: Go back and check out the lich king vision in Yogg, and remember that Bolvar was the only one incinerated before LK got his soul. Datamining has also Turned up Bolvar as a voice over in the new files and Saurfang as an Undead NPC. The vision shows that Saurfang has already been turned and when viewed through a model viewer the immolated champ (or whatever he is called) is pretty spot on for being mr Bolvar. Maybe the LK will go truly old school and combine the Orc and Human into one super crazy DK. The dragon fight could be interesting if done that way, but I don't see them putting such an emphasis on the San'layn after giving us so very little about them. I could be wrong, but I hope I'm not. I'm very excited for all of this except the airship battle. Horde/ally fighting going on while we're trying to get to the top of ICC doesn't 'fit' for me. It seems to be a distraction, and only 1/2 of the mouthbreathing duo is along for the trip. EDIT: Unless we are looking at this all wrong and it is the duo of abominations as one fight, the san'layn princes as one fight, and that frostmourne itself will be an encounter. I just read over the description again, and that could be a nice little tidbit thrown in, and would fit with the ideas posed at Blizzcon that there is more than the LK in play at the end. Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - Lissa - 10-07-2009 Quote:Go back and check out the lich king vision in Yogg, and remember that Bolvar was the only one incinerated before LK got his soul. Datamining has also Turned up Bolvar as a voice over in the new files and Saurfang as an Undead NPC. The vision shows that Saurfang has already been turned and when viewed through a model viewer the immolated champ (or whatever he is called) is pretty spot on for being mr Bolvar. Maybe the LK will go truly old school and combine the Orc and Human into one super crazy DK. Everything at the Wrathgate was incinerated, only Arthas and Putricence were able to not be burned to a crisp (Arthas re-entering Icecrown Citadel and Putricence returning to the Undercity). Blizzard has stated that Arthas will die, but the Lich King will survive. Remember, the Lich King is the spirit of Nerzul and it's pretty hard to outright destroy a spirit. Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - shoju - 10-07-2009 Quote:Everything at the Wrathgate was incinerated, only Arthas and Putricence were able to not be burned to a crisp (Arthas re-entering Icecrown Citadel and Putricence returning to the Undercity). Right, what I'm saying is, The LK took StY's soul before that happened. He is not shown doing the same to Bolvar. He killed StY and then promptly took his soul. In the Vision in the YS Brain Room, you definitely See Saurfang standing there while Arthas tortures the Immolated Champion. The Immolated champion isn't on fire in the vision, and when looked at in a model viewer it looks like Arthas was able to snatch him up, while the Turned champion looks like an orc in Tier8 Death Knight Armor. The Lich King says to the Immolated champion he is torturing, "I will break you... as I broke... him" Referring to the turned champion, the orc. Further looking at the model viewer will reveal that the skin of the orc is Mag'har Brown, just like Saurfang. The Immolated Champion is wearing Bolvar's Pants. If you look at the bug that allowed people of the same race of the server's scarab lord to understand draconic You will find that the conversation went like this: Quote:There is a dialogue between Korialstrasz and Alexstrasza after the Wrathgate event. It goes as follows: This again points to Arthas somehow getting his grimy hands on Bolvar. Quote:Blizzard has stated that Arthas will die, but the Lich King will survive. Remember, the Lich King is the spirit of Nerzul and it's pretty hard to outright destroy a spirit. You are going to have to show me where they said that, because ever since Blizzcon, they have been singing a very very different tune. I have read a lot, and there is no Arthas. There is no Ner'zhul. There is only the Lich King. I haven't seen anything where they say that LK gets to survive or that we wont be successful in squashing him. I've actually seen plenty of Blue Posts / interviews / quotes from BLizzcon saying that even though The LK dies, it isn't the end of the game. They are just putting this to bed at the end of ICC. The Scourge portion of WoW will be done. They have been pretty adamant through Blizzcon, Blue Posts, and interviews that this will be over (from a lore standpoint) when Cataclysm goes live. There has even been vague posts that hint at EPL and WPL being part of the zones that take on a new persona/styling in Cataclysm due to the changes in Lore, while other Blue posts specifically state that the scourge is the kind of thing that even after you destroy the leader, it wont fall over like a house of cards. I take the second comment to mean that they might not redesign the zones. Icecrown Citadel Raid Info - shoju - 10-22-2009 Spoilers are contained in this post. Proceed below only if you are interested in spoilers. Quote:So 12 encounters. This was my inital thoughts of the encounters based on how the post read, After PTR testing on several bosses, and the new video and images posted on the MMO-Champ, I'm inclined to change my list of encounters. I'm not quite sure how to change the list, but I'm torn on how things are going to be condensed. I'm almost 100% positive that Frostmourne is going to be its own encounter. The room is there, and it is big enough to hold a raid sized encounter. I don't see them putting that amount of work into a room that isn't going to be used. So far, we know that Marrowgar Deathwhisper the airship event Deathbringer Saurfang Festergut Rotface Putricide Frostmourne Lich King are separate encounters. the question becomes what is condensed? the San'layn princes + queen? The Sindragosa/Valithria encounter? Will Valithria or Putricide not be an encounter? And how will Bolvar (lavaman also enough evidence to confirm) fit into all of this? |