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Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - Thecla - 09-07-2006 A recent study by Fisman and Miguel used the parking fines accumulated by immune UN diplomats to estimate corruption by country. A link to the full article is there, but here --- according to the study --- are the countries of the most and least corrupt UN diplomats: 1 KUWAIT 2 EGYPT 3 CHAD 4 SUDAN 5 BULGARIA 6 MOZAMBIQUE 7 ALBANIA 8 ANGOLA 9 SENEGAL 10 PAKISTAN 11 IVORY COAST 12 ZAMBIA 13 MOROCCO 14 ETHIOPIA 15 NIGERIA 16 SYRIA 17 BENIN 18 ZIMBABWE 19 CAMEROON 20 MONTENEGRO & SERBIA . . . 125 UNITED KINGDOM 126 NETHERLANDS 127 UNTED ARAB EMIRATES 128 AUSTALIA 129 AZERBAIJAN 130 BURKINA FASO 131 CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC 132 CANADA 133 COLOMBIA 134 DENMARK 135 ECUADOR 136 GREECE 137 IRELAND 138 ISRAEL 139 JAMAICA 140 JAPAN 141 LATVIA 142 NORWAY 143 OMAN 144 PANAMA 145 SWEDEN 146 TURKEY Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - Jester - 09-07-2006 I really have to wonder about any methodology that says Colombia is slightly less corrupt than Canada, ranking among the best in the world. -Jester Edit, glancing at the list some more: Turkey. Colombia. Panama. Israel. All ranking well within the top quarter. Hm.... is there some kind of *pattern* here? Naw. Must just be my imagination. Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - Occhidiangela - 09-07-2006 Quote:A recent study by Fisman and Miguel used the parking fines accumulated by immune UN diplomats to estimate corruption by country.Do these morons understand the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony? EDIT: Was this study funded privately, or by a government grant? This erudition smacks of mental masturbation of the most refined sort. I read through it. I was bombarded with the usual ejcaulations from what an infamous dictator called "erudite apes." I arose from my desk and got more coffee. We had no hemlock, or I'd have drunk that in despair over the civilized world's habit of picking the fly feces from the pepper. Occhi Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - NiteFox - 09-07-2006 God dammit, nowhere near corrupt enough. 125th on the list? We should really be trying harder. Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - oldmandennis - 09-07-2006 Central African Republic is not corrupt? Diamonds constitute the most important export of the CAR, frequently accounting for 40-55% of export revenues, but an estimated 30-50% of the diamonds produced each year leave the country clandestinely. Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - Rhydderch Hael - 09-07-2006 Quote:Do these morons understand the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony?From what I glean from it, this is not a clinical or objective studyâ and it never was intended to be. It's simply a smear campaign to shame the parking violators into changing their ways. The City of New York can do little else through due process, so this is a grass-roots approach. Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - Occhidiangela - 09-07-2006 Quote:From what I glean from it, this is not a clinical or objective studyâ and it never was intended to be. It's simply a smear campaign to shame the parking violators into changing their ways. The City of New York can do little else through due process, so this is a grass-roots approach.Let the air out of their tires when you find them illegally parked. Occhi Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - oldmandennis - 09-07-2006 I guess I should have RTFA. I heard they were given permission to start towing the suckers, and it cleared most of it up. Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - GenericKen - 09-09-2006 I say the theory is fundamentally flawed. Corruption doesn't directly correlate with unpaid parking tickets (it helps to keep a low profile when skimming heavier stuff). If anything, the study reveals a rather interesting trend across cultures' strictures and notions of "face". Coming from The Economist, though, I'm not surprised at the misconception and gross generalization. Corruption index: even UN-haters must admit it's good for somethin - Fragbait - 09-09-2006 Quote:I say the theory is fundamentally flawed. Corruption doesn't directly correlate with unpaid parking tickets (it helps to keep a low profile when skimming heavier stuff).Hi, the underlying study can be viewed here (219 kb pdf). If you read it, you will notice that they don't claim that corruption "directly correlates" with unpaid parking violations, but that Quote:The act of parking illegally fits well with a standard definition of corruption,I think while this study may not give us a direct correlation between corruption and diplomate parking violation (what would we do with such a correlation anyway? Teach our own diplomats not to commit parking violations, so that we look less corrupt to others?), what it does give us is a closer look at the morality of different countries and their diplomats respectively. If the official representatives of a country choose to violate law because the authorities "can't prosecute us anyway, hehe." (<- exaggerated wording), this indeed is quite revealing. Of course for the study to be somewhat representative, not only the behaviour of embassadors in New York but in many other cities as well ought to be investigated. Greetings, Fragbait |