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Paladin Tanking Belts - swirly - 05-22-2008 Mostly I'm wondering about what pally tanking belt is better between Belt of the Guardian and Belt of the Protector. It is a tough decision for me. Block Value versus Dodge Rating kind of thing. These discussions usually involve the rest of a person's gear so I am going to list that off now. Some slots have multiple items listed since sometimes I use block value ones and sometimes I use spell damage ones. Helm http://www.wowwiki.com/Justicar_Faceguard http://www.wowwiki.com/Enduring_Talasite http://www.wowwiki.com/Eternal_Earthstorm_Diamond http://www.wowwiki.com/Glyph_of_the_Defender Neck http://www.wowwiki.com/Barbed_Choker_of_Discipline Shoulder http://www.wowwiki.com/Justicar_Shoulderguards http://www.wowwiki.com/Falling_Star http://www.wowwiki.com/Enduring_Talasite http://www.wowwiki.com/Greater_Inscription_of_Warding Cloak http://www.wowwiki.com/Slikk's_Cloak_of_Placation http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Cloak_-_Steelweave Chest http://www.wowwiki.com/Chestguard_of_the_Stoic_Guardian http://www.wowwiki.com/Regal_Nightseye http://www.wowwiki.com/Enduring_Talasite http://www.wowwiki.com/Solid_Star_of_Elune http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Chest_-_Defense Bracers: block value http://www.wowwiki.com/Vambraces_of_Courage http://www.wowwiki.com/Enduring_Talasite http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Bracer_-_Fortitude Bracers: spell damage http://www.wowwiki.com/Bracers_of_Dignity http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Bracer_-_Fortitude Weapon http://www.wowwiki.com/Cudgel_of_Consecration http://www.wowwiki.com/Solid_Star_of_Elune http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Weapon_-_Major_Spellpower Shield: block value http://www.wowwiki.com/Shield_of_Impenetrable_Darkness http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Shield_-_Major_Stamina Shield: spell damage http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunward_Crest http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Shield_-_Major_Stamina Libram http://www.wowwiki.com/Libram_of_Repentance Hands http://www.wowwiki.com/Justicar_Handguards http://www.wowwiki.com/Heavy_Knothide_Armor_Kit Waist http://www.wowwiki.com/Girdle_of_Valorous_Deeds Legs http://www.wowwiki.com/Inscribed_Legplates_of_the_Aldor http://www.wowwiki.com/Regal_Nightseye http://www.wowwiki.com/Facet_of_Eternity http://www.wowwiki.com/Nethercleft_Leg_Armor Feet http://www.wowwiki.com/Boots_of_the_Righteous_Path http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Boots_-_Fortitude Ring 1 http://www.wowwiki.com/Violet_Signet_(Protector%2C_Revered) Ring 2 http://www.wowwiki.com/Ring_of_the_Stalwart_Protector Trinket 1 http://www.wowwiki.com/Commendation_of_Kael'thas Trinket 2 http://www.wowwiki.com/Moroes'_Lucky_Pocket_Watch Now I'm probably going to upgrade my boots to http://www.wowwiki.com/Sabatons_of_the_Righteous_Defender before I end up getting either belt. I'll be putting http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Boots_-_Fortitude on them as well. I also may get http://www.wowwiki.com/Figurine_-_Empyrean_Tortoise to replace the Pocket Watch, though I am not decided yet on if I should do that or get the belt. I'd love to get http://www.wowwiki.com/Figurine_-_Crimson_Serpent and wear two stamina trinkets. but I doubt I can manage that and stay uncrushable. Defense values with block value items (no aura/buffs) Stamina: 1072 Armor: 16470 Defense: 514 Dodge: 24.75% Parry: 16.56% Block: 15.75% uncrush total with holy shield: 103.949 Defense values with spell damage items (no aura/buffs) Stamina: 1059 Armor: 16441 Defense: 505 Dodge: 24.28% Parry: 16.20% Block: 17.67% uncrush total with holy shield: 104.708 These are without the new boots or trinket since I don't have those as of yet. If I end up staying above uncrush like those values currently are then I might start switching gems out for pure stamina ones. If the Block Value belt is better then I might have to get the trinket to stay above uncrush. I've not worked out all of those details as of yet. Anyway...thoughts on which belt is better? Paladin Tanking Belts - Taelas - 05-22-2008 They're about equal. Belt of the Guardian has more Effective Health (stamina, BV), but Girdle of the Protector has both avoidance and threat (more SPD, spellhit, dodge rating). It won't make a huge difference either way. I'd get the Belt of the Guardian as a personal favorite because it has block value, and there is fun stuff you can pull off with huge #s of BV. Paladin Tanking Belts - Concillian - 05-23-2008 Quote: and there is fun stuff you can pull off with huge #s of BV. ... until your shield breaks... Reminds me of pre-TBC when the warrior shield block bug was in effect and this prot warrior posted a video of him soloing LBRS. The only problem was his shield would break before he got done. Hello Hyjal tanking, where you need to bring 2 shields for a full run, just in case. Paladin Tanking Belts - TheDragoon - 05-23-2008 Quote:... until your shield breaks.../hides Paladin Tanking Belts - swirly - 05-27-2008 Quote:Defense values with block value items (no aura/buffs) 2.4 Defense Rating = 1 Defense = .04 Miss/Doge/Parry/Block 18.9 Dodge Rating = 1% Dodge 31.5 Parry Rating = 1% Parry 7.9 Block Rating = 1% Block 25 Agility = 1% Dodge Change from http://www.wowwiki.com/Girdle_of_Valorous_Deeds to http://www.wowwiki.com/Belt_of_the_Guardian -1 defense rating -16 block rating 1/2.4=0.4167*0.16=0.0667 16/7.9=2.025 2.025+0.0667=2.09198 Overall loss of 2.09198 Change from http://www.wowwiki.com/Girdle_of_Valorous_Deeds to http://www.wowwiki.com/Girdle_of_the_Protector -9 defense -16 shield block rating +27 dodge rating 9/2.4=3.75*0.16=0.6 16/7.9=2.025316 27/18.9=1.42857 0.6+2.025316=2.625316 1.42857-2.625316=-1.196746 Overall loss of 1.196746 Apply to current values BV_BotG: 103.949 - 2.09198 = 101.857 BV_GotP: 103.949 - 1.196746 = 102.752 SD_BotG: 104.708 - 2.09198 = 102.616 SD_GotP: 104.708 - 1.196746 = 103.511 Change from http://www.wowwiki.com/Boots_of_the_Righteous_Path to http://www.wowwiki.com/Sabatons_of_the_Righteous_Defender -5 defense rating +4 dodge rating 5/2.4=2.083*0.16=0.333 4/18.9=0.2116 0.2116-0.3333=-0.1217 Overall loss of 0.1217 Apply to current values BV_BotG_SofRD: 101.857 - 0.1217 = 101.735 BV_GotP_SofRD: 102.752 - 0.1217 = 102.630 SD_BotG_SofRD: 102.616 - 0.1217 = 102.494 SD_GotP_SofRD: 103.511 - 0.1217 = 103.3893 Change from http://www.wowwiki.com/Moroes'_Lucky_Pocket_Watch to http://www.wowwiki.com/Figurine_-_Empyrean_Tortoise -38 dodge rating +42 defense rating 38/18.9=2.01058 42/2.4=17.5*0.16=2.8 2.8-2.01058=0.789 Overall gain of 0.789 BV_BotG_SofRD_F-ET: 101.735 + 0.789 = 102.521 BV_GotP_SofRD_F-ET: 102.630 + 0.789 = 103.419 SD_BotG_SofRD_F-ET: 102.494 + 0.789 = 103.253 SD_GotP_SofRD_F-ET: 103.3893 + 0.789 = 104.178 Looking at those numbers makes me lean towards BV_BotG_SofRD_F-ET. It keeps me uncrushable and has the most block value of any of the options. Of course another option would be to take one of those other paths and then swap pure stamina gems in for any slots that aren't currently using them. I think the gains from that will be pretty small though since there are a good amount of stamina bonuses in there for using the right color. So I've gone ahead and had a BotG made and now am eyeing up the boots and the trinket. |