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D2R PTR Holy Fire and fibbing character screen - Ruvanal - 01-26-2022

While on these forums the character screen earned the nickname "The Lying Character Screen", in the current PTR it is more like a little fib for Holy Fire.  As I have not looked yet, some of the following will like also apply to any of the aura that had scaling range damage applied to their effects.

For some the following I dug through the data files of the game (mostly skills.txt) and did some in game testing with the assistance of Frag.

Notable changes that were done to Holy Fire was changing synergy values and damage scaling based on the skill level.  So first, the synergies as listed in the patch notes.

[*]Resist Fire synergy increased from 18% to 24%
[*]Salvation synergy increased from 6% to 10%
[*]For a full synergy boost of 20 points in each this would change the damage boost from +480% to +680%.  Moderately strong in my opinion, but on what was not an overly strong skill before, not that bad in itself.


Now for a short table of scaling factors for fire damage by level  pulled from the 2.3 and 2.4 files.

Code:
                base    elvl1    elvl2      elvl3        elvl4    elvl5
        lvl    1    2 to 8    9 to 16      17 to 22  23 to 28    29 and up
fire min dmg    2    2    4      6         7            8
fire max dmg    6    3    5      7         8            9
                        
Old 2.3 scaling                        
fire min dmg    2    1    2      3         5            7
fire max dmg    6    1    2      3         5            7
[*]Here you can see the extent of the damage level scaling that was alluded to in the patch notes.  Its noticeably greater than the 90% that they listed for levels 2 to 22 and only comes around the amount that they listed for levels above 22.

Running out the numbers by level for this data as was done on other sites would yield a table like this:
Code:
Skill    aura damage    weapon damage     
Level    Min    Max    Min    Max
1    1    3    6    18
2    2    4.5    12    27
3    3    6    18    36
4    4    7.5    24    45
5    5    9    30    54
6    6    10.5    36    63
7    7    12    42    72
8    8    13.5    48    81
9    10    16    60    96
10    12    18.5    72    111
11    14    21    84    126
12    16    23.5    96    141
13    18    26    108    156
14    20    28.5    120    171
15    22    31    132    186
16    24    33.5    144    201
17    27    37    162    222
18    30    40.5    180    243
19    33    44    198    264
20    36    47.5    216    285
21    39    51    234    306
22    42    54.5    252    327
23    45.5    58.5    273    351
24    49    62.5    294    375
25    52.5    66.5    315    399
26    56    70.5    336    423
27    59.5    74.5    357    447
28    63    78.5    378    471
29    67    83    402    498
30    71    87.5    426    525
31    75    92    450    552
32    79    96.5    474    579
33    83    101    498    606
34    87    105.5    522    633
35    91    110    546    660
36    95    114.5    570    687
37    99    119    594    714
38    103    123.5    618    741
39    107    128    642    768
40    111    132.5    666    795
41    115    137    690    822
42    119    141.5    714    849
43    123    146    738    876
44    127    150.5    762    903
45    131    155    786    930
46    135    159.5    810    957
47    139    164    834    984
48    143    168.5    858    1011
49    147    173    882    1038
50    151    177.5    906    1065
51    155    182    930    1092
52    159    186.5    954    1119
53    163    191    978    1146
54    167    195.5    1002    1173
55    171    200    1026    1200
56    175    204.5    1050    1227
57    179    209    1074    1254
58    183    213.5    1098    1281
59    187    218    1122    1308
60    191    222.5    1146    1335
61    195    227    1170    1362
62    199    231.5    1194    1389
63    203    236    1218    1416
64    207    240.5    1242    1443
65    211    245    1266    1470
66    215    249.5    1290    1497
67    219    254    1314    1524
68    223    258.5    1338    1551
69    227    263    1362    1578
70    231    267.5    1386    1605
71    235    272    1410    1632
72    239    276.5    1434    1659
73    243    281    1458    1686
74    247    285.5    1482    1713
75    251    290    1506    1740
76    255    294.5    1530    1767
77    259    299    1554    1794
78    263    303.5    1578    1821
79    267    308    1602    1848
80    271    312.5    1626    1875
81    275    317    1650    1902
82    279    321.5    1674    1929
83    283    326    1698    1956
84    287    330.5    1722    1983
85    291    335    1746    2010
86    295    339.5    1770    2037
87    299    344    1794    2064
88    303    348.5    1818    2091
89    307    353    1842    2118
90    311    357.5    1866    2145
91    315    362    1890    2172
92    319    366.5    1914    2199
93    323    371    1938    2226
94    327    375.5    1962    2253
95    331    380    1986    2280
96    335    384.5    2010    2307
97    339    389    2034    2334
98    343    393.5    2058    2361
99    347    398    2082    2388
100    351    402.5    2106    2415
[*]Now, some would look at this and say that it is incorrect compared to the game displays and in part you would be right.  But there are reasons for that.  The max aura damage does not match, but the game uses a x6 on this aura calculation to determine the what the min and max damage adds are for the paladins weapon damage modifier is and this part will match ingame displays.  Note: round fractions down for game displays.

Now there is another thing that the devs did to this skill and few other aura skills.  They noted that skill like this would scaling from 100% on the outer edge of the aura to 200% next to the paladin.  They did this off of factors that they adjusted in the data table like this:
Code:
Param6    *Param6 Description
200    Area Damage % Range Scaling (from 100% to X% damage, based on how close the enemy position is to the caster)
[*]
Now the problem here is that while the description implies one effect, the actual result is something a little bit different than that.  And I am not sure the current devs realized wha tit actually does do.  Seeing issues with the above numbers for the aura and what is displayed, I took to do some measurable testing on the PTR using some assistance and PvP conditions (damage/6).  The results were that what is happening is that the outer edge damage of an aura is using the minimum value of the aura damage to calculate its damage and the point blank damage is using the max damage value listed above at 200% strength.  While we did not take the time to try and estimate the mid range values, I expect that it would be adjusted between these two numbers based on distance.  What the game does do is display the aura min damage as above and the max damage as 200% of the max damage above.  Here is table for the adjusted aura  values.
Code:
Skill    aura damage    
Level    Min    Max
1    1    6
2    2    9
3    3    12
4    4    15
5    5    18
6    6    21
7    7    24
8    8    27
9    10    32
10    12    37
11    14    42
12    16    47
13    18    52
14    20    57
15    22    62
16    24    67
17    27    74
18    30    81
19    33    88
20    36    95
21    39    102
22    42    109
23    45.5    117
24    49    125
25    52.5    133
26    56    141
27    59.5    149
28    63    157
29    67    166
30    71    175
31    75    184
32    79    193
33    83    202
34    87    211
35    91    220
36    95    229
37    99    238
38    103    247
39    107    256
40    111    265
41    115    274
42    119    283
43    123    292
44    127    301
45    131    310
46    135    319
47    139    328
48    143    337
49    147    346
50    151    355
51    155    364
52    159    373
53    163    382
54    167    391
55    171    400
56    175    409
57    179    418
58    183    427
59    187    436
60    191    445
61    195    454
62    199    463
63    203    472
64    207    481
65    211    490
66    215    499
67    219    508
68    223    517
69    227    526
70    231    535
71    235    544
72    239    553
73    243    562
74    247    571
75    251    580
76    255    589
77    259    598
78    263    607
79    267    616
80    271    625
81    275    634
82    279    643
83    283    652
84    287    661
85    291    670
86    295    679
87    299    688
88    303    697
89    307    706
90    311    715
91    315    724
92    319    733
93    323    742
94    327    751
95    331    760
96    335    769
97    339    778
98    343    787
99    347    796
100    351    805
[*]These should match the ingame numbers without any synergies applied.

Regarding MrLlamaSC video about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amvILiPCqA8
The numbers here do not fully support that the skill is the real broken part of this.  It is the way these high level runewords can apply stacking skills to the players that appears to be the real problem.

RE: D2R PTR Holy Fire and fibbing character screen - myrdinn - 01-27-2022

The game used the pythagorean theorem with X,Y coordinates of both object to calculate distance (use for Xp sharing ...)
I have given the function code somewhere in phrozenkeep.
So probably the mid range is correctly applied if they keep that function.

And I agree, this is the stacking of the auras of the runewords that is the problem.
Without it, it is not too powerful

And so much information, in so few numbers. Not an easy task. Wink