(08-02-2011, 03:15 AM)DeeBye Wrote: I'm fine with all of that.

(08-02-2011, 04:12 AM)Treesh Wrote:

(08-02-2011, 03:15 AM)DeeBye Wrote: I'm fine with all of that.

Oddly enough, these announcements have taken D3 off my want list. Strange but true.

(08-02-2011, 02:26 PM)shoju Wrote: I have found several of my D III Friends, and spoke to them, and the reaction is truly, REALLY mixed. Most all of them that I have talked to like the achievements, and the banner system, and most are 'ok' with the 'must be online part'. One was unhappy because it meant no more playing DIII on trips, and he is a frequent flyer. But, the most divisive issue has been the real money auction house feature.

Is it just the fact that it is a real money ah for a game? Or is there something I'm missing?

(08-02-2011, 02:26 PM)shoju Wrote: Is it just the fact that it is a real money ah for a game? Or is there something I'm missing?

(08-02-2011, 05:06 PM)RTM Wrote: From what I've read, you are able to participate on the real$ AH without having to ever spend real$. There is nothing preventing you from posting items, building up $ on your Blizzard account, then spending that money on an item. The problem I personally am going to have is, every time I get an item, I am going to think about it in terms of real world $: "This unique would be a huge upgrade for my Barb but I can get $10 for it on the AH...", etc. It's probably something I'll get over but that initial hump is going to take some time.

(08-02-2011, 06:26 PM)Chesspiece_face Wrote: I don't see how they could let you participate in the $AH without having to invest some level of cash unless they let you put a certain amount of items up a week or month while waiving the posting fee.

(08-02-2011, 06:26 PM)Chesspiece_face Wrote: Items don't degrade in this game thus once they are generated they have the possibility of remaining in the system forever. Thus items that once had value will, eventually, have no value because the supply has just continued to rise over time. The real money AH could end up stiffling levels of deflationary values on high ticket items while also maintaining the perception that these items are actually findable (the other main way to stiffle deflation would just be to make drop rates insanely low to the point that most players will never see one drop realistically: Zod runes.)

(08-02-2011, 10:25 PM)Concillian Wrote: It's hard to say this will make it suck more when it's already expected to be pretty close to the limit on how much possible suckage there can be.

Quote:Auction House:
Diablo III has an Auction House, and if you so choose, you can make real money on it. That also means, you can pay real Money on it as well.

you don't "have" to spend real money on the AH. You can buy and sell things for gold as well.

(08-02-2011, 11:56 PM)vor_lord Wrote: Sales marketing from Concillian!

(08-02-2011, 10:25 PM)Concillian Wrote: Suck long and hard.

(08-03-2011, 01:59 AM)Concillian Wrote: Edited so it can't be taken quite as far out of context.

(08-02-2011, 11:56 PM)vor_lord Wrote: There is another way to handle this, and that is the old ladder wipe (still in use in D2 today). Then the value of those items, as supply is again extremely rare, shoots back up at the beginning of a new ladder season. No idea if there are any such plans. It may not jive well with the 10 character limit.

Quote:Q: As far as keeping the economy not stagnant and still exciting, one thing I notice about D2 is once I had my items, they never degraded, I was pretty much good to go; I never really needed to upgrade. I see that in a player-driven economy as kind of a big problem, because eventually prices will taper off and at some point, it’s not worth even putting my item on the AH because everyone has one. That leads to a lot of pressure, I think, on you guys having to create a lot of items and expansion sort of content so there’s new stuff. What is the plan for that?

A: So the plan at release really comes back to the crafting system again. A lot of the crafting system is focused on pulling items out of the economy, so certainly the most highly-valued items people aren’t going to salvage, but everything slightly below that they are, which is going to drive a lot of items out of the economy. The enhancing system is actually one of the…basically our enhancing system kind of works like enchanting from WoW, but it has a random value to what you’re getting. So you input the enchantment, and let’s say it’s somewhere between 80-100 attack that it’s gonna give you. So if you roll 83, you could roll that again and you have a chance of getting a better number. You won’t get a lower one, and it might say “aww, you didn’t get any better.” But you can try over and over again and you need to essentially recycle items to do that. Eventually you’ll get to perfect, but you’ll really have to pull out a lot of items. And at that level, you’re really talking about rares and legendaries that you’re actually going to have to be melting to be able to do this. So we do have some systems in. Even so, there is going to hit a saturation point and what will we do about that? We have a bunch of ideas on how to deal with that, most of them do revolve around extending the item database at some point. Whatever we do, we’ll try to make sure that the player base has a lot of forecasting, like they will know long before we do anything what we’re going to do so that they can prepare. We don’t want people to go on the AH and spend basically $100 and then us change the item database the next day. We want them to know, in 3 months we’re changing the database “OK, well that gives me time to plan and think about what I want to do.” So we may not…it’s still up in the air. But it’s one of those things where we really want to see what happens to the economy and to a certain degree, we don’t know because we’ve never done something like this before.