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Looking for "on striking" items - Magicbag - 05-29-2003

There seem to be a very limited number of items in the game that trigger effects on striking, as opposed to being struck. There are a few good weapons, a couple of gloves, and one or two amulets. This is the extent of the items in the game that have this effect as far as I know.

If one were to include items that trigger effects like knockback, fear, and blindness on hit, which is fine, the list expands somewhat, but not a lot. Can anyone help me to compile a definitive list for posterity? Or just for people looking to create builds that trigger lots of effects (like me!).

Thanks!
-MB

Looking for "on striking" items - Xelnaga_Hero - 05-29-2003

Is on attack the same thing as on strikeing , or is it diffrent.

Looking for "on striking" items - Striker - 05-29-2003

Xelnaga_Hero,May 29 2003, 09:20 AM Wrote:Is on attack the same thing as on strikeing , or is it diffrent.
I interpret "on attack" as meaning to try and attack something. It doesn't matter if you actually hit it.

"On striking" then is actually landing a hit.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I think of it.

Looking for "on striking" items - Magicbag - 05-29-2003

Regardless of distintion, I'd be glad to have information about items with either of these!

Looking for "on striking" items - Striker - 05-29-2003

Magicbag,May 29 2003, 08:22 AM Wrote:Can anyone help me to compile a definitive list for posterity?  Or just for people looking to create builds that trigger lots of effects (like me!).
This lists the suffixes of skills that can show up on magic and rare items. It seems wrong since I could have sworn that I've seen weapons with "x% chance to cast Amp Damage", but that skill isn't listed under the necro skills.

As for set and unique items? Without checking the item database over at the Arreat Summit, I can think of a few off the top of my head. There's Laying of Hands, the Heaven's Set polearm, Atma's Scarab, Earthshaker, the Lightsaber, and Goldstrike Arch.

Are you looking to create a specific character (spamazons I heard are fun)?

Edit: It's Hwainin's set, not the Heaven's one.

Looking for "on striking" items - Magicbag - 05-29-2003

it's currently a bowazon build with goldstrike. I'm also using laying of hands, although I'm considering lavagout or hellmouth gloves.

In a little in gmae testing, I see this mod on weapons (magic) in the store all the time now. 5% chance of lvl 4 firebolt on attack...etc.. I wonder if it's weapon only.
-MB

Looking for "on striking" items - Striker - 05-29-2003

Magicbag,May 29 2003, 01:33 PM Wrote:it's currently a bowazon build with goldstrike.  I'm also using laying of hands, although I'm considering lavagout or hellmouth gloves.
Well, if you're going for pure spammage (or whatever you want to call it), then I would go for the Hellmouths. Nothing like filling the screen with Fist of the Heavens, meteors and fissures to torch your video cards. ;)

But I dug around the Summit, and I found some other items that you can consider. For the helm, you can go with the Heaven's set helm for Weaken. No armor that I could find has the "on attack/striking" suffix, but there are plenty with the "on being struck". I would go with Atma's for the amulet. Then for rings I would just try to find something usable.

Side note: The linked list I posted earlier could be updated for 1.10. I have a ring that casts chain lightning on attack, but it's listed as being able to spawn only on orbs, staves, and spears. That, or it lists only skills with actual charges, and not "on attack/struck/whatever".

Looking for "on striking" items - Ruvanal - 05-29-2003

That was a list of skill charges that appear as suffixes.

Suffix's of "on-hit skills"
of Firebolts, weapons except for missile type
of Nova, weapons except for missile type
of Nova, weapons except for missile type
of Damage Amplification, weapons except for orb type

Suffix's of "on-attack skills"*
of Firebolts, weapons except for missile type
of Firebolts, weapons except for missile type
of Icebolt, weapons except for missile type
of Lightning, weapons except for missile type
of Chain Lightning, rings, amulets, weapons except for missile type
of Chain Lightning, rings, amulets, weapons except for missile type
of Chain Lightning, rings, amulets, weapons except for missile type
* The on-attack attribute will not work with a missile attack unless you use 'shift-click" to trigger it.

Looking for "on striking" items - Magicbag - 05-30-2003

Great info Ruvanal. Thanks.

This is heartenting in that I can now find rare rings (I'm hoping it's just not magic only) that have some lightning or novas or somthing. Cool.

I'm now gonna have Amp damage, FoH, open wounds, some lightning or cold ring effects, and Holy Bolt (or enchant) depending on the gloves I swap in. Should be pretty.

This is all on a 8/2 strafe rig with about 12/12 leech.

Resists could be a problem, but I'm hoping not to get hit... just in case I do, inferno stride will give me that 8% chance to blaze
:D

Thanks for everyone's input.

Looking for "on striking" items - Kartoffelsalat - 05-31-2003

Quote:inferno stride will give me that 8% chance to blaze

Infernostrides give a 5%, not 8% chance to cast level 8 blaze.

Looking for "on striking" items - Ice - 06-01-2003

Other than the affixes Ruvanal mentioned, uniques and some sets are a wonderful way to get 'chance to cast xxx on striking or attack'.

Amulet
Atma's Scarab - amplify damage
1.08 Saracen's Chance - amplify damage

Gloves
Hellmouth - meteor, firestorm
Lava Gout - enchant
Laying of Hands - holy bolt

Helm
Ondal's Almighty - weaken

One-Handers
Coldkill - ice blast
Pompeii's Wrath - volcano
Guardian Naga - poison nova
Moonfall - meteor
Baezil Vortex - nova
Earthshaker - fissure
Schaeffer's Hammer - static field
Zakarum's Hand - blizzard
Fetid Sprinkler - confuse, attract
Hand of Blessed Light - fist of heavens
Plague Bearer - poison nova
Lightsabre - chain lightning on attack
Dangoon's Teaching - frost nova
1.08 Hexfire - hydra

Two-Handers
Stormrider - charged bolts, chain lightning
Hellslayer - fireball on attack
Cranium Basher - amplify damage
Blackleach Blade - weaken
Bing Sz Wang - frozen orb
The Vile Husk - amplify damage
Cloudcrack - fist of heavens
Todesfaelle Flamme - fireball on attack
Doombringer - weaken
Hwanin's Justice - ice blast

Ranged
Goldstrike Arch - fist of heavens
Skystrike - meteor
Witchwild String - amplify damage
Pus Spitter - lower resists

All are chance to cast on striking unless otherwise stated... off the top of my head, so may not be all that complete.

Mix and match... I had a lot of fun playing with a barb spamming frozen orb, poison nova, chain lightning, meteor, firestorm, weaken and blaze.

Looking for "on striking" items - Dani - 06-09-2003

Search the forum for "Spamazon", and you'll find the previous threads.
If you're too lazy, just one advice. Frozen Arrow results in 2-3 times more spam than Multishot.
Or well, another advice as well, Goldie + Hellmouth are better alone than with Atma's Scarab added. Because there's a bug in 1.09 which causes you to skip attacks when amplify triggers.

Of cource you'll have to really pump your IAS for maximum effect. M'avina's Tiara socketed with an IAS Jewel and a 60 IAS Armor help alot.

Finally, the Frozen arrow build does not kill other cowrunners very effectively, since you're freezing the cows. Multishot on the other hand can result in maximum carnage; but then I decided to concentrate on burning obsolete vid cards. ;)

Looking for "on striking" items - Brista - 06-11-2003

I would guess here that the thread is really looking for things that work with Blades of Ice and Fists of Fire area effect attack

With an amazon you don't really have to worry about "on striking" as opposed to "on hitting" - or at least not much !

Looking for "on striking" items - BEEFMOTRTON - 06-19-2003

Actually, "on attack" doesn't work with bows.

I've tested this with a rare ring that casts chain lightning on attack. Doesn't work with bows, but works fine on my paladin with zeal (or any other melee for that matter). You do need on striking.


Oh and for the love of god, you DO want to use Atma's scarab of 1.08 saracen's chance. Amplify damage is a GODSEND. Keep in mind that in hell difficulty in 1.09 it takes enemy physical resistance from 50% to -50%, effectively tripling the physical portion of your damage. You kill significantly faster with it, regardless of the previously mentioned bug.

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With the previously mentioned equipment, alongwith a smoke armor my amazon could solo the chaos sanctuary in an 8 player game with relative ease.

Looking for "on striking" items - Brista - 06-19-2003

BEEFMOTRTON,Jun 19 2003, 04:17 PM Wrote:Actually, "on attack" doesn't work with bows.
This, I believe, is a single player bug

There is a fix for it which has something to do with swapping some 1.09b files in - perhaps a more clued up person could point Beefmotrton the right way

Looking for "on striking" items - Ruvanal - 06-19-2003

Brista,Jun 19 2003, 02:33 PM Wrote:This, I believe, is a single player bug

There is a fix for it which has something to do with swapping some 1.09b files in - perhaps a more clued up person could point Beefmotrton the right way
No it is not a single player bug. The "on attack" will not normally work with ranged attacks. If you hold the shift key down and then try to attack, you can cause the effect to trigger even with a ranged attack in this case.

Looking for "on striking" items - Tydon - 06-24-2003

Take notice that only one curse will work at a time, and that certain ones overide atmas, which is a bad thing.

Looking for "on striking" items - Nicodemus Phaulkon - 06-24-2003

Quote:No it is not a single player bug. The "on attack" will not normally work with ranged attacks. If you hold the shift key down and then try to attack, you can cause the effect to trigger even with a ranged attack in this case.

'Fraid I'll have to take exception to that one, Ruvanal. I just took my big 'zon into Hell Cows to confirm my suspicions.

With my left hand firmly wrapped around my Coca-cola and other on the Mouse, my 'zon's Atma's Scarab was happily lighting up Beefsteak all around. Granted, I was using Freezing Arrow to maximize my viewing potential... but there you go. At no time was a Shift key touched during the making of this movi...er.. experiment.

I don't swap 1.09d and b files; I run Foxbat's SP fix off the Phrozen Keep. Same same, but worth mentioning.

*tips helm*

Looking for "on striking" items - ShadowHM - 06-24-2003

Tydon,Jun 23 2003, 10:57 PM Wrote:Take notice that only one curse will work at a time, and that certain ones overide atmas, which is a bad thing.
Sometimes Atma's is a PITA too. If you have a few sorceresses or elemental druids in the party and instead of Lower Resist you get Amp Damage, it is also a bad thing.

Looking for "on striking" items - ryan4nayr - 06-24-2003

I recently found a bow of Amp Dmg in NM (with my boltress wearing just a Chance Guard for 30ish% MF). Here's the screenie b4 I sold it.
http://web.njit.edu/~rea8049/games/Screenshot006.jpg
I snapped a pic to remind me to keep dreaming for that magical Cruel Grand Matron Bow of Decrepify. And sell it for millions on ebay. Yeah right on both.

( :ph34r: Disclaimer: I swear on my Light & Salvation that this off-site link is not pornographic in any way, unless somebody else finds the sensual shape of a long battle bow... sensual B) )