Quote:One other thing I noticed in respect to DK tanking is there are no two handed weapons that are built for tanking. Not a single two handed weapon that is in the level 80 use range has defense, parry, or dodge, they're all setup for DPS while there are many one handed weapons specifically setup for Warrior and Paladin tanking. They need to alleviate this issue as well for DK tanking instead of having the DK depend completely on their armor for their tanking stats unlike Warriors and Paladins that look to their weapon and shield to give them a number of tanking stats along with their armor.

Quote:16) New runeforge rune -- Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle (two-handed only) now grants 25 Defense and 2% Stamina.

Quote:Man I hope not. Lets leave the two handed weapon selection as-is and deal with it differently.

Oh wait, look at this:
That is 25 defense skill, not rating. Pretty nice boost to DK's looking to stay above 540 as they either gear up or swap in new upgrades that have less defense and more of other tanking stats.

Quote:Yeah, I think that's a superior approach than to add in 2-handed weapons that would ONLY be useful to Death Knights. Putting in "tanking" 2-handers would be completely contrary to the ideals of item homogenation that have been promoted in WotLK. As it stands, there are certainly weapons out there that are more-tankish that are perfectly fine for the purpose (ie agility/stam/expertise sorts of weapons) but other 2-handers work just fine, as well. :)

Quote:There's very few Epic quality two handers with Expertise on them.

Two Handers with Expertise

There are also very few Epic quality two handers with Hit on them.

Two Handers with Hit

There just isn't much choice for two handed weapons that would be ideal for DK tanking.

Overall, the only real choice for DK tanking is going to be Inevitable Defeat

So there really is a very limited list of weapons for DK tanking and there should be more.

Quote:Well, I suppose this is the easiest way to address player boredom.

GOGO ACHIEVEMENT HUNTERS! Gotta catch 'em all!

Quote: So by the time you were able to do Heroics you were usually ready (gear wise) for them. But now that there's no keys, you have folks jumping right away into Heroics, and that can make a good run a pretty brutal one.

Quote: In WotLK, there are no attunements, for anything. Just hit 80? You can zone in and give Malygos a poke. But is this a good thing? Especially with Heroics? You used to need Revered (and then Honered) to get the Heroic Key. So by the time you were able to do Heroics you were usually ready (gear wise) for them. But now that there's no keys, you have folks jumping right away into Heroics, and that can make a good run a pretty brutal one. I imagine that taking the keys away is a function of not having a specific faction tied to a certain dungeon (thank god) but is there some other way to 'throttle' it a bit?

Quote: In WotLK, there are no attunements, for anything. Just hit 80? You can zone in and give Malygos a poke. But is this a good thing? Especially with Heroics? You used to need Revered (and then Honered) to get the Heroic Key. So by the time you were able to do Heroics you were usually ready (gear wise) for them. But now that there's no keys, you have folks jumping right away into Heroics, and that can make a good run a pretty brutal one. I imagine that taking the keys away is a function of not having a specific faction tied to a certain dungeon (thank god) but is there some other way to 'throttle' it a bit?

Quote: In WotLK, there are no attunements, for anything. Just hit 80? You can zone in and give Malygos a poke.

Quote:2) Loken (unless you have a well geared Holy/Discipline Priest or Resto Shaman and the pRNG doesn't screw you)

Quote:I hadn't really thought about taking advantage of the holy priest I usually ran with on this fight until I ran with a good resto shaman the other night, and he suggested not running out, at all, and we listened to him. Talk about turning the fight from something fun that makes everyone stay on their toes to a complete joke.

Quote:I hate to join the bandwagon, but I'll echo the sentiment by the previous posters: attunements wouldn't make sense for Wrath, with the difficulty as-is.

That being said, Malygos does have the requirement that someone in the raid has to have beaten Sapphiron. So there's that. But I suppose you could theoretically just hit 80 and poke Malygos - it depends on who you know.

Quote:With how easy the heroics are, I'm not sure attunements would have made much sense. So far it feels like level 80 heroics in Naxx10 gear are easier than level 70 heroics in Sunwell gear. Some of the achievements add a challenge, but if all you are after is loot and badges most of them are a breeze.

Quote:Try doing some pug's, and I wonder if folks thoughts on the difficulty and lack of attunements would change.

Quote:(We did Slad'ran last night in his own room as opposed to pulling him to the entrance, and it took the full attention of three of our top dps'rs to keep up with the snake spawn while myself and Inga (Kira's pet) dealt with the boss... I can't see that being the design of the boss as it took nearly 6m, wheras the final boss took just under over 1...)

Quote:A nitpick, but I think I was mostly wasted on the snakes. I'm sure I helped some, but I think that overall the fight would have went much quicker with me on the boss. There were just too many instances where I'd start to attack a snake and it would be dead before chain could go off on it. Sure I got some off and I thunderstormed some and such, but it mostly felt like hunter+druid was plenty for them.