Required reading for 4th graders in Illinois....

[DeeBye]

Ok. Figured you might have been but wasn't sure.

That's actually a pretty good way to sum up the Cold War in 9 words.

[shoju]

Honestly? I'm still sitting here, REALLY surprised that this is a story, and then I'm even more surprised that people didn't have to do biographies of presidents.

Jesus, I feel like more of my social studies class was reports and biographies from the time I was in 4th grade on.
4th grade was the reagan bio
5th grade, we did "bios" of both bush and dukakis (as much as a 5th grader would), as well as a project related to the election. That was pretty much the entire first 9 weeks of social studies right there.
8th grade was all about clinton, for sure.
High School, I did bios on clinton, Teddy Roosevelt, JFK, Lincoln, Studied in depth the cold war, the politics that led to the cold war standoffs, as well as 10th grade being solely devoted to the last 10 years as a british colony, and first 25 -30 years of being a young nation.

From the sounds of it, you guys had shitty shitty social studies / history teachers.

[Alram]

Generalizing on this topic, should members of the Lurker Lounge be required to read a biography of Bolty?

[Hammerskjold]

Generalizing on this topic, should members of the Lurker Lounge be required to read a biography of Bolty?

I vote, yes.

http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Bolty%27s_...rior_Guide

[eppie]

Interestingly enough, when I was in 4th grade, my required reading was the biographies of Lenin and Brezhnev.

Naturally, there is absolutely no connection between these requirements.

It is very common for people with your background to become right wing extremists. If you see the way the average Russian (or Ukrainian or white Russian, or Baltic) thinks about minorities such as gays and people of colour it is highly likely that this is a reaction on living in a communist society for a period.
In Russia you see also a huge growth in religious extremism among orthodox Christians. I don't mean terrorism but taking over all the church' extreme views on minorities.

You see this also amongst extremist religious types. Many of the most extreme ones are the ones that were converted to that religion in a later stage of their live.

[Archon_Wing]

Wtf. Reading someone's biography spreads propaganda and creates a cult of personality. Absolutely evil and shit.

You all need to read the story of how Archon_Wing came to be...

[FireIceTalon]

Interestingly enough, when I was in 4th grade, my required reading was the biographies of Lenin and Brezhnev.

Naturally, there is absolutely no connection between these requirements.

If you see the way the average Russian (or Ukrainian or white Russian, or Baltic) thinks about minorities such as gays and people of colour it is highly likely that this is a reaction on living in a communist society for a period.

I've seen this type of thinking before, and I am puzzled by it. So anyone who is for minority rights or for gay rights is a communist in the eyes of many right-wingers, even though there are plenty of liberals who also are. But then again, to the average right-winger, the terms liberal and communist are synonymous. Basically the same idiot blokes who think Obama is a socialist.

I don't think it is so much a reaction to living in any particular society though, so much as it is a form of biological determinism - a tool commonly used by religious right-wing scum to justify the oppression of those they see unfit for their world doctrines. Somebody has to be the scapegoat for the worlds problems - gays and minorities are the most convenient targets (though Muslims are probably the most popular scapegoat today, followed by atheists) but it can be anyone really so long as it isn't directed at the system itself.

[kandrathe]

Honestly? I'm still sitting here, REALLY surprised that this is a story, and then I'm even more surprised that people didn't have to do biographies of presidents.

I can't remember much of what I was taught in High school social studies (76-79). I do remember some things... we did a project on environmentalism, where I designed earth sheltered housing, and read Silent Spring. We analyzed the economic stagnation of the Carter era. We learned about the American Revolution, and the Civil War. We studied WWI, WWII, Korea, and a little bit about Vietnam (as it was recent history then). We learned about US presidents en masse, which maybe had some additional focus on Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, Kennedy, Nixon.

From the sounds of it, you guys had shitty shitty social studies / history teachers.

Yup. Back then there wasn't really enough paper writing. More multiple choice, fill in the blank, short answer type questions, and too much memorization.

I did check out controversial books from the school library to see what the fuss was about them... Some controversial reads at that time I remember were; Catcher in the Rye, Brave New World, A Clockwork Orange, A Farewell to Arms, Flowers for Algernon, Go Ask Alice, Lord of the Flies, Mein Kampf, Of Mice and Men, Slaughterhouse Five, To Kill a Mockingbird, Ulysses, and others...

[TheDragoon]

I did not know it was possible to read DeeBye minus comedy.

It's definitely not recommended.

[DeeBye]

I did not know it was possible to read DeeBye minus comedy.

It's definitely not recommended.

ಠ_ಠ

[Lissa]

I did check out controversial books from the school library to see what the fuss was about them... Some controversial reads at that time I remember were; Catcher in the Rye, Brave New World, A Clockwork Orange, A Farewell to Arms, Flowers for Algernon, Go Ask Alice, Lord of the Flies, Mein Kampf, Of Mice and Men, Slaughterhouse Five, To Kill a Mockingbird, Ulysses, and others...

Several of these were required reading in my Freshman through Senior English classes (Catcher in the Rye, Of Mice and Men, To Kill a Mockingbird, along with Uncle Tom's Cabin and Animal Farm). English is where we did most of the essays and such in HS for me. We did have some in World History, US History, Washington state History, and a lot more in the Civics class as a Senior.

[LemmingofGlory]

Generalizing on this topic, should members of the Lurker Lounge be required to read a biography of Bolty?

I think many of us got where we are today (that is, lingering in a comfortable obscurity) by reading Jarulf's Guide, various character build guides, and the occasional "Legit Manifesto." The documents that generated the most universal disdain and eyerolling were, of course, the cloudcuckoolander Dueling Guides. My favorite advice was always "Click harder."

-Lem

[Alram]

Generalizing on this topic, should members of the Lurker Lounge be required to read a biography of Bolty?

I think many of us got where we are today (that is, lingering in a comfortable obscurity) by reading Jarulf's Guide, various character build guides, and the occasional "Legit Manifesto." The documents that generated the most universal disdain and eyerolling were, of course, the cloudcuckoolander Dueling Guides. My favorite advice was always "Click harder."

-Lem

Honestly, I don't remember how or when I first came to this site. Probably it had something to do with D2. And, for the record, I have not read a biography of Bolty or Obama.

[FireIceTalon]

Generalizing on this topic, should members of the Lurker Lounge be required to read a biography of Bolty?

My favorite advice was always "Click harder."

-Lem

If only it were that simple....

[Hammerskjold]

Generalizing on this topic, should members of the Lurker Lounge be required to read a biography of Bolty?

My favorite advice was always "Click harder."

-Lem

If only it were that simple....

Yes! Only the truest of true D1 Duelist knows the Ultimate Truth!

It's 'Click Stronger'.

All you right wing KKKapitalizt and college commies wannabes, step off, 'cause you're about to be served.

The Actual Ultimatest Truthiest Truth is this:

'Click Strongest.'

Anymore questions? Feel free to ask, I'm the only, and last of the true D1 duelist, anywhere, ever. Everyone else has simply disintegrated from the force of my D1 dueling awesomeness.

Sigh. It's so hard sometimes, being the best...

[kandrathe]

Yes! Only the truest of true D1 Duelist knows the Ultimate Truth!

It's 'Click Stronger'.

There's my issue... I click more hard.

[Hammerskjold]

Yes! Only the truest of true D1 Duelist knows the Ultimate Truth!

It's 'Click Stronger'.

There's my issue... I click more hard.

No, the main issue here is you are a typical reactionary, extreme borgia faux leftist lie-beral right wing wannabe.

And that, is why you fail-hardest at D1 dueling.

Being the last, only, and truest D1 Duelist gives me this special skillz and insight that no one else has.

But fear not, I am not only super serious seriously intelligent, I am also magma-nimbus.

I can show you the way. The True Way. The Only Way. And my way, leads to the Real. Ultimate. Power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpgwlj4wWFc

Cosmic Truth be dropped at the 56 second mark fools! So drop the faux leftist right wing wanna bees manifest-toes, throw away Obama's book of lies, and get your attention on to this! Real! Ultimate! Power!

It's not a dream. It is. Destiny.

[kandrathe]

No, the main issue here is you are a typical reactionary, extreme borgia faux leftist lie-beral right wing wannabe.

Gotcha.

Click more hard. Check.

Beret. Check.

Dog eared copy of "German socialist philosophy" by Feuerbach. Check.

Push ups on the hour. Check.

I am ready for Sanctuary!

[FireIceTalon]

Well, since D1 PvP is reduced to how hard one can click, I invite anyone here who has a high level char to put that theory to the test on battle.net. You can pick the classes involved, and we can play as many rounds as necessary. However, I am afraid you will be sorely disappointed when you see that this theory utterly fails after 3-4 takes, regardless of how "hard" you click. *shrugs*

[Hammerskjold]

... and we can play as many rounds as necessary.

Whose 'we'? You? I never even heard of you, though you seem to have a bad habit of talking and acting like a bush league wannabe scrub duelist.

'I'll challenge you!11' is something only betas yip out. The -Real Alpha- dogs don't go barking at every cars that pass by.

In blunt terms, I am as versed and skilled in the art of True D1 Dueling, as you are in the Realest of Truest Marxism.

However, I am afraid

At least you're honest about your fear.