Anyone have Moomba's Trainer?

[Urza-DSF]

1. Is it cheating to use items such as trainers or editors to upgrade a character to a point where he/she can play with other members of a party; e.g., enter Hell/Hell?

Absolutly. Any use of a 3rd party program to change a character is, by definition, cheating.

2. If everyone in the game knew that an individual was using such practices and were willing to accept it, would it still be cheating?

Again, yes. Just because the cheating is an accepted practice (which I doubt would happen if other DSFers were in the game) does not in any way change the fact that the player is cheating.

3. If all players in the multiplayer environment knew that these practices might be taking place, is it cheating to use them secretly?

Yes it is, just because people know that the cheating is going on, your still cheating.

4 .Is the individual who has the time and the inclination to make a thousand runs through the first four levels in order to upgrade his Thinking Cap to a durability of twenty one, any less of a cheater than the player, who, with less time, hacks his TC to durability twenty one?

The player who had to physically go down and do something according to the rules of the game is in no way a cheater, unless he is exploiting a bug (in this case he is not). The person who uses a trainer to do the same is cheating, because as stated before, he is using 3rd party software.

5. If one player professes to be friendly, is it cheating if he PK’s another player, or even worse, leads the second player into a trap where he is MK’d?

No, because both of those situations are atainable, and possible, without cheating. If, however, the PK/MKer is using godmode, impossible items, or any other cheat, then he is cheating. Not because he PK/MKed, but because he was cheating far before that.

What about single player?

Singleplayer is an entirely different subject, because there you are not affecting anyone elses play experience.

Here is how I've always seen it: If you are playing alone, or with other cheaters, then feel free to do whatever you want. However, if you are with a group of people who pride themselves by the fact that they will not cheat, then you should either go along with their wishes, or go and find another group of people who are more receptive to cheating.

Just to make sure, I am not acusing you of cheating yourself, just stating what I believe to be the common opinion around here. Hope that makes sense.