Changes to the Stormrage Guild system

[--Pete]

Hi,

. . . if they are just people who are met in game, then there is nothing forcing them to become Lurkers. So, the only thing wrong with "guild first, site later" is that in many cases it will become "guild first, site never".

Why? With the proposed structure you have a means to get rid of people who don't become active Lurkers.
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That is an even bigger can of worms.

Your proposal is that we allow someone in, and if he turns out to be the nicest person in the world, a great person to game with, someone passionately interested in all aspects of the game, but he does not become active in the Lounge, then we kick him out? Did you think that one through? Let's say we tried that. Then we would be forcing a lot of people to pick between a friend and the Lounge. Do we really want to do that? Just by cracking that door open, we've already got bickering, whinning, and the formation of a clique. Can you imagine the hell this place will be if we slam that door open? I can, I've seen it happen and it drove me out of the only guild I'd ever even considered joining.

How about the person who is already an active member of the Lounge and gets into the guild. Then because of nauseating bickering threads like this one decides that the Lounge is no longer worth the time and effectively drops out. Should this person be kicked from the guild?

Remember, it is always easier to keep someone out in the first place than it is to force them to leave later. In principle, both just take the dictum of one of the guild 'gods'. In practice, kicking causes a lot more grief for all.

--Pete