06-28-2005, 02:45 PM
KiloVictor,Jun 27 2005, 05:07 PM Wrote:What do you see as the limitations of the invulnebubble vs. the priest shield?
My priest's shield soaks up just under 1K HP before it's gone, can't be recast for 15 seconds even with talents, can be dispelled easily, and takes a pretty good chunk of mana to cast. I'm certainly not saying it's useless, but it seems to have a fair bit of limitation built into it. For the sake of argument, call it "balanced". :)
The invulnerability of Divine Shield looks really good by comparison, along with the
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Well I see Divine Shield as a means for paladins to heal at least once a fight (twice if they use BoP and are facing a melee type) to basically extend the fight. This goes long towards our role as being supremely survivable. But if they were dispellable/purgeable this isn't offset like a priest's bubble with other skills like fear to assist with getting away. If you make the skill available to dispell/purge then something will need to be given back to paladins to compensate. Not saying the shield shouldn't be dispelled or purged but our escape options are limited at best.
I do have to say that I'm not a big fan of bubbling in 1 on 1. The fights are usually too quick for me to use the skill reliably. I tend to save it for when I'm getting pounded upon while trying to heal the flag bearer. The downside to it is that I usally come out of bubble to die shortly afterwards. ;)
KiloVictor,Jun 27 2005, 05:07 PM Wrote:I will agree with MJ on one thing: Paladins can cause *huge* amounts of mental anguish among Horde players with the bubble-'n-bomb Consecration runs. The pissing and moaning that you hear in chat after a Pally gets away untouched is unbelievable. Probably the strongest point of a Pally in PvP is their ability to incite rage and frustration in the Horde players. :)
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This has never ceased to amaze me honestly. Consecration only does 384 damage over 8 seconds over a 8 yard radius. This works out to 48 damage a tick over an area that you can back out of easily at any time. Add in that I have never seen someone stand in the consecration and not be able to get a spell off and its impact isn't even in the marginal scale anymore but quickly taking the left turn at Albuquerque into nonexistant. It also amazes me that there are still paladins that do this and that the horde on your servers hasn't adapted to it. On Stormrage the better PvP'ers among mages/warlocks, druids and Shaman keep an eye out for Paladins in group combat and will either sheep/secude/entangle on the way in or will do it on the way out once your shield has popped. I'm sure on the horde side there is great cheering when they entangle a paladin steps away from safety and rip him apart. ;)
A bigger question, one that the horde seem to be ignoring in these discussions, is that how bad is the paladin class for pvp that this is their only reliable means of doing any damage to the enemy? And I really don't want to hear the healer in plate argument. Some of us signed up to be paladins to be a support character, take a few hits, heal if necessary but being up front in the thick of things. How would a priest/druid/shaman who specc'd other than healing like if they were told that the only skills they could use in Battlegrounds/PvP was to heal and nothing else?