Struck by nostalgia

[LemmingofGlory]

Thank you. I'll look over what it says, as I suspect it will probably be somewhat insightful.

It may or may not. My point in mentioning olden DSF cheating debates is that they often went ... I hate to say "deep" because profundity was not the purpose, but essentially these threads were quite analytical and practical.

Here's an old post of mine:

How about you just ask the right question? "What is cheating in D1?"

The following assumes all players are playing the same game. It can be D1, HF, a mod, whatever. Comparing two characters playing different games serves no purpose, because cheating can only occur with respect to a specific game environment.

(1) Abusing game bugs for your benefit.
(2) Usage of third-party program to modify how the game works or change a game condition. Godmode, stat modification, learn all spells, free items. This includes using your operating system to restore a character who suffered a game-sanctioned loss (e.g. item loss because you died in H/H and couldn't retrieve them).
(3) Directly benefitting from another player engaging in (1) or (2).

Now, the practical purpose of all this is to determine two things:
(1 -- Multiplayer Aspect) Is this person someone I want to game with?
(2 -- Maintaining Gameplay Standards) If they have engaged in "shady practices," have they done something such that I discount any possible achievement they might make? This is also self-applicable : do I discount my own achievements with a character because I knowingly/unknowingly did some strange stuff?

"Legit" provides a standard for comparison of characters. At the Lounge, we believe playing the game is more than just "having fun." We're about learning the game, becoming proficient at it, understanding the game, and challenging yourself. People who're just out to "have fun" don't have the same standards that we do. And worse, they have a tendency to spread their low standards to others in multiplayer (i.e. cheating breeds cheating). That is unacceptable, so we will do everything in our power to prevent cheating.

-Lemmy