Priest Changes Coming!
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Raelynn,Feb 4 2006, 10:07 AM Wrote:The issue that I saw personally with druids compared to priests is that a priest which was holy specced sacrificed a lot of damage for a slight gain in healing power comparably.  A restoration specced druid could be basically a better healer and still had a ton of utility compared to the priest.

I guess it's harder for me to see this point, as I leveled feral and then turned Resto. So while Priests see what I have, I see what I lost. I tanked in ZG for a little bit, and though I did alright (I think) all I kept thinking was "man, if I still had ..."

If the right things are done, I hope a Holy/Disciple priest can do as much damage as my Resto druid. The changes to Holy Fire might help that happen. Coming from previous experience though (as both a decked-out Rogue and a Feral druid), my Resto spec's damage seems paltry. So my viewpoint is skewed by my experiences.

I still highly dispute that a druid healer could be considered "better" than a priest healer. They each had their strong and weak points. I'm just afraid of the druid strong point being overwritten if they change Greater Heal the "wrong way".

Quote:Basically, a priest specced to healing could only heal, while a druid specced to healing still could do a lot more, with basically the same healing power.  The fix I could see is to make priests a better healer than druids at that point, or to give them some more utility or something while going down that spec.  It seems Blizzard is moving towards making them a better healer.
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The only way to completely fix this side of the equation would be to make feral forms cost talents. Any form, no matter how gimp it is, is better than nothing. I've done DM with hunters/pets tanking, a bad bear could certainly do it too. But if you do that, you destroy just what a druid is. In the really high-end stuff, a druid spec'd resto isn't going to come close to comparing to a warrior, and the damage is nothing compared to a rogue. So in the best of the best, a druid needs to be spec'd right to have the extra options. It's in everything else (DM, UBRS, etc) that a resto spec'd druid gets away with their utility.

I'm not going to all of a sudden turn into a bear in MC and miraculously save the raid from a wipe. Making druids obsolete at healing isn't the answer.

Of course, this is all academic if, in fact, Healing Touch will have enough more HP/s than the new Greater Heal to make it worth using.
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Priest Changes Coming! - by nobbie - 02-01-2006, 01:44 PM
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