03-12-2003, 06:36 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2003, 06:39 AM by the Langolier.)
Sorry about the confusing terms, but I am sure whichever one you think is appropriate is the one that I mean. I guess what I am talking about is hard <for me> to explain, so I'll just give you an example:
Awesome Full Plate Mail of the Stars - I came across these two plates over b.net not too long ago with the exact same stats, so I logged them:
<copied directly from log file>
Pack03 01:1C24BE91D3:46 Awesome Plate of the stars 75_80(90) +150%ac +8a R90s
...
Pack19 01:1D24BE91D3:46 Awesome Plate of the stars 75_80(90) +150%ac +8a R90s
APoS - 75 base AC, +150% AC, +8 to all attributes (90 duribility).
Explanation: Obviously, these two items were dupes. It is virtually impossible that two identical plates of this caliber have been found. I checked the value you see above (01:1D24BE91D3:46). This is what I was refering to as the "code" Jarulf, perhaps its better to call it an ID? Notice how these two ID's differ by a single value. Through some experimentation, I learned the the bold sections of the ID (one byte) refer to the ilvl of the plate. On the first plate, the ilvl = 29. The second has an identical ID, except for the fact that it its ilvl = 28. I then took the first plate alone, and edited its code in an editor - changing byte 04 (ilvl) from 1C to 1D. I loaded it in a game, then created a new one to see what happened. The edited plate did not morph into a new item; it was stable. Both were able to exist in the same game without destroying each other. Ofcourse, this is no suprise condisering their ID's are different. So what we have here is essentially a duplicate item that the game doesn't treat as one.
I have tried other values for the ilvl on this item, such as ilvl = 30 (1E), but in a new game the item morphed into something else: I think it turned into a sapphire FPM IIRC. Also, raising this value to 60 or above can yeild the Holy/Godly full plates, etc.
By perfect, I mean that the specific value of the prefix/suffix is the highest for that given range. For instance, the prefix on this plate is "perfect" because it raises the AC by 150%, which is the highest possible value for the "awesome" range. It seemed to me from the above example that you could change ANY item (save uniques) by a single ilvl to effectively copy it. I tried this on a few other items, to see what would happen. For any item that is not already ilvl = 30, it usually works. I found out, however, that when an item had perfect stats, the item would be regenerated no matter what you changed the ilvl to. For example, if the plate above were 75 AC +150% +11 to all attributes (11 being the highest value for "of stars"), then changing the ilvl on the original plate to any value would cause the item to morph in a new game.
It is interesting to change the ilvl to different values to see what you can get. It is like the prize in a cracker-jacks box. You can't pick and choose what you want this way though, like you can :)
Anyways, I hope that cleared up some of my confusions. Also, I guess you don't have to believe that there were actually two plates - after all it would be easy enough to type a C instead of a D - but you'll just have to trust me :)
Awesome Full Plate Mail of the Stars - I came across these two plates over b.net not too long ago with the exact same stats, so I logged them:
<copied directly from log file>
Pack03 01:1C24BE91D3:46 Awesome Plate of the stars 75_80(90) +150%ac +8a R90s
...
Pack19 01:1D24BE91D3:46 Awesome Plate of the stars 75_80(90) +150%ac +8a R90s
APoS - 75 base AC, +150% AC, +8 to all attributes (90 duribility).
Explanation: Obviously, these two items were dupes. It is virtually impossible that two identical plates of this caliber have been found. I checked the value you see above (01:1D24BE91D3:46). This is what I was refering to as the "code" Jarulf, perhaps its better to call it an ID? Notice how these two ID's differ by a single value. Through some experimentation, I learned the the bold sections of the ID (one byte) refer to the ilvl of the plate. On the first plate, the ilvl = 29. The second has an identical ID, except for the fact that it its ilvl = 28. I then took the first plate alone, and edited its code in an editor - changing byte 04 (ilvl) from 1C to 1D. I loaded it in a game, then created a new one to see what happened. The edited plate did not morph into a new item; it was stable. Both were able to exist in the same game without destroying each other. Ofcourse, this is no suprise condisering their ID's are different. So what we have here is essentially a duplicate item that the game doesn't treat as one.
I have tried other values for the ilvl on this item, such as ilvl = 30 (1E), but in a new game the item morphed into something else: I think it turned into a sapphire FPM IIRC. Also, raising this value to 60 or above can yeild the Holy/Godly full plates, etc.
By perfect, I mean that the specific value of the prefix/suffix is the highest for that given range. For instance, the prefix on this plate is "perfect" because it raises the AC by 150%, which is the highest possible value for the "awesome" range. It seemed to me from the above example that you could change ANY item (save uniques) by a single ilvl to effectively copy it. I tried this on a few other items, to see what would happen. For any item that is not already ilvl = 30, it usually works. I found out, however, that when an item had perfect stats, the item would be regenerated no matter what you changed the ilvl to. For example, if the plate above were 75 AC +150% +11 to all attributes (11 being the highest value for "of stars"), then changing the ilvl on the original plate to any value would cause the item to morph in a new game.
It is interesting to change the ilvl to different values to see what you can get. It is like the prize in a cracker-jacks box. You can't pick and choose what you want this way though, like you can :)
Anyways, I hope that cleared up some of my confusions. Also, I guess you don't have to believe that there were actually two plates - after all it would be easy enough to type a C instead of a D - but you'll just have to trust me :)