03-05-2003, 09:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-05-2003, 09:22 PM by the Langolier.)
>Are you by perfect meaning max values on stats? Then I don't see how that would matter. A perfect stat is not in anyway different from a non perfect stat.
I know what you are saying, but oddly this is the case. Note I am only talking about changing the given code of a single item.
>Changing the seed by a "single" value is the same as changing it to a completely other value, that is it yields a completely new item unless you manage to hit another seed that yields the exact same item, which is quite improbable :) Perfect or not, there are actually TONS of seeds yielding the exact same item.
Again, I am only talking about modifying the current item's code. Certainly identical items spawning from the game can have virtually infinite number of combinations of codes. However, modifying the current code will only generate a new item in some instances.
>Are you refering to the seed of thew item? Or are you perhaps refering to the ilvl of the item?
Both. The item's ilvl is embedded in the code, and this value can be changed within a small range so that the item will not regenerate in a game. Specifically, there is only one qlvl that an item can be changed to so it remains stable. For some reason, however, increasing or decreasing the ilvl of an item with perfect stats with ALWAYS cause the game to regenerate that given item.
It is possible in this manner to create a copy of an item that the game thinks is a completely different item. They will both be identical, save for the fact that one of the two copies will have a different ilvl (usually ilvl-1). For instance, I have had dupes of a Strange Short Sword of Haste (149%). Obviously this item would be difficult to find identical copies of. Both dupes were able to exits in the same game (even when dropped) because one of the copies had a modified ilvl that was greater than the other. As mentioned earlier, had the sword been a perfect 150%, this would not have been possible because changing the ilvl of the second sword would cause it to become instable (but I don't know why).
In this theory is how Godly Plates of the Whale exist and are stable. If you check the code for any GPoW out there, you will see it's ilvl > 60, which of course is not possible to acquire from the game. This is really the only invalid thing about them (not counting the price cap). I myself have managed to forge Holy Full Plate Mails. I have some items that are copies that I could show you if you want.
Anyways, I certainly don't use any of stuff from above, but it was kind of fun to experiment with different item codes and what they do. Actually, if anyone has any detailed information about an item's unique code, I would be very interested in knowing more about it, for instance, if an item's code is randomly generated, then how does it tell the game exactly what the item is and what values it has?
I know what you are saying, but oddly this is the case. Note I am only talking about changing the given code of a single item.
>Changing the seed by a "single" value is the same as changing it to a completely other value, that is it yields a completely new item unless you manage to hit another seed that yields the exact same item, which is quite improbable :) Perfect or not, there are actually TONS of seeds yielding the exact same item.
Again, I am only talking about modifying the current item's code. Certainly identical items spawning from the game can have virtually infinite number of combinations of codes. However, modifying the current code will only generate a new item in some instances.
>Are you refering to the seed of thew item? Or are you perhaps refering to the ilvl of the item?
Both. The item's ilvl is embedded in the code, and this value can be changed within a small range so that the item will not regenerate in a game. Specifically, there is only one qlvl that an item can be changed to so it remains stable. For some reason, however, increasing or decreasing the ilvl of an item with perfect stats with ALWAYS cause the game to regenerate that given item.
It is possible in this manner to create a copy of an item that the game thinks is a completely different item. They will both be identical, save for the fact that one of the two copies will have a different ilvl (usually ilvl-1). For instance, I have had dupes of a Strange Short Sword of Haste (149%). Obviously this item would be difficult to find identical copies of. Both dupes were able to exits in the same game (even when dropped) because one of the copies had a modified ilvl that was greater than the other. As mentioned earlier, had the sword been a perfect 150%, this would not have been possible because changing the ilvl of the second sword would cause it to become instable (but I don't know why).
In this theory is how Godly Plates of the Whale exist and are stable. If you check the code for any GPoW out there, you will see it's ilvl > 60, which of course is not possible to acquire from the game. This is really the only invalid thing about them (not counting the price cap). I myself have managed to forge Holy Full Plate Mails. I have some items that are copies that I could show you if you want.
Anyways, I certainly don't use any of stuff from above, but it was kind of fun to experiment with different item codes and what they do. Actually, if anyone has any detailed information about an item's unique code, I would be very interested in knowing more about it, for instance, if an item's code is randomly generated, then how does it tell the game exactly what the item is and what values it has?