Interesting. And it also took me a couple of minutes to realise how the "delay+real delay" fit into what you were talking about. I perfer this over some imperically derived values from a site where I do not know what testing methods that they used.
I plugged the formulas into a spread sheet and ran it through a series of Animation Frames and IAS factors.
For those that do not have the access to look up some of the Animation Frames, here are some for the barbarian.
a1 action mode
1hs=16 most 1 handed weapon use this
2hs=18 two-handed swords
2ht=19 two-handed spears
bow=15
hth=12 fists/no weapon in hand
stf=19 staves, polearms and the two-handed axes/hammers
xbw=20
Oddly I did not see "1ht" animation files for the barbarian as these would cover things like the knifes and javelin class weapons. Maybe I will check on that later.
edit: 1ht=16 knives and javelins class weapon in melee. Apparently shares the 1hs animations for all bodyparts except the arms and hands(weapon graphic).
In the formula the "weapon ias+wsm" factor can be treated as a single net factor of WIAS-WSM (faster weapons have a negative value so they will be quicker). This also assumes that I do not do any typos in transfering information from the spreadsheet. For the third a later attack you will get frame delays of the following based on the weapon used and the net WIAS-WSM factor.
1hs & 1ht
frames WIAS-WSM
12 -20
10 -19 to -11
8 -10 to +7
6 +8 to +33
4 +34 and up
2hs
12 -20 to -10
10 -11 to 0
8 +1 to +20
6 +21 to +50
4 +51 and up
2ht or stf
14 -20 to -18
12 -17 to -5
10 -5 to +5
8 +6 to +26
6 +27 to +58
4 +59 and up
hth
6 0
4 1+ (but fists are 0 and how do you get WIAS with no weapon?)
You cannot Whirlwind with bows and crossbows, so these are skipped.
Hmm for the very fast and very slow attack speeds are you referring to states like when the character is chilled or speed up by some of the skills like Frenzy or Burst of Speed?
Also for the Druid wereform attacks, I would assume that it is using the human form a1_frames? If so I can run the tables out for these also since I have all the raw data at hand.
edit: forgot to exend the tables to cover weapons that have +10 and +20 WSM (slow).
I plugged the formulas into a spread sheet and ran it through a series of Animation Frames and IAS factors.
For those that do not have the access to look up some of the Animation Frames, here are some for the barbarian.
a1 action mode
1hs=16 most 1 handed weapon use this
2hs=18 two-handed swords
2ht=19 two-handed spears
bow=15
hth=12 fists/no weapon in hand
stf=19 staves, polearms and the two-handed axes/hammers
xbw=20
Oddly I did not see "1ht" animation files for the barbarian as these would cover things like the knifes and javelin class weapons. Maybe I will check on that later.
edit: 1ht=16 knives and javelins class weapon in melee. Apparently shares the 1hs animations for all bodyparts except the arms and hands(weapon graphic).
In the formula the "weapon ias+wsm" factor can be treated as a single net factor of WIAS-WSM (faster weapons have a negative value so they will be quicker). This also assumes that I do not do any typos in transfering information from the spreadsheet. For the third a later attack you will get frame delays of the following based on the weapon used and the net WIAS-WSM factor.
1hs & 1ht
frames WIAS-WSM
12 -20
10 -19 to -11
8 -10 to +7
6 +8 to +33
4 +34 and up
2hs
12 -20 to -10
10 -11 to 0
8 +1 to +20
6 +21 to +50
4 +51 and up
2ht or stf
14 -20 to -18
12 -17 to -5
10 -5 to +5
8 +6 to +26
6 +27 to +58
4 +59 and up
hth
6 0
4 1+ (but fists are 0 and how do you get WIAS with no weapon?)
You cannot Whirlwind with bows and crossbows, so these are skipped.
Quote:bit ot: The formula I gave for 'delay' is also used to determine the very slow-very fast attack speed display on weapons (and it is also used in wereform attack speed calculations):
very slow attack speed = 28 or higher
very fast attack speed = 9 or lower
Hmm for the very fast and very slow attack speeds are you referring to states like when the character is chilled or speed up by some of the skills like Frenzy or Burst of Speed?
Also for the Druid wereform attacks, I would assume that it is using the human form a1_frames? If so I can run the tables out for these also since I have all the raw data at hand.
edit: forgot to exend the tables to cover weapons that have +10 and +20 WSM (slow).