The D1 Meet'n'Greet
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Hi,

Quote:If you consider this cheating ignore this post. Since finding a purifying spring on level 1 is only a matter of time let me make it a bit easier for you. Set the year on your computer to 2039 and then start diablo. Remember, even if that's not cheating if you die and start a new game with the same year it isn't a fair way to IM.
Actually, the pseudo random number generator is seeded with the time, to the second, that the game is started. A number of people verified this by writing programs that constantly re-set the time to a value they picked and starting a game. For any given time, the games were identical if at the same difficulty. Thus, with a little experimenting, one can find a game with, say, both a purifying spring and a blood fountain, or whatever one wants, and replay that game as often as one wants to. 'Cheating' starts meaningless arguments so let's just say that that would make the game too boring to bother with.

'Clock freezing' is not cheating, per se. It is especially useful for Ironman tournaments. Since the degree of success in Ironman depends a lot on luck, having everyone play the same game (i.e., one started with the same PRNG seed) levels the playing field and makes for a fairer tournament. Also, clock freezing is useful in play, like Ironman and Immortal, where a single complete clear is called for. Since that is too much to do in a single sitting, clock freezing and a high level character allows you to stop anywhere. Simply restart the game with the same seed, use the high level character to quickly get back to where you were and carry on.

There are some other aspects of clock manipulation that others, who remember them better than do I, might want to discuss. For instance, there is a date past which the seed is always the same, and since the game fails to initialize some parameters, 'clock freezing', strictly speaking, should only work on the first game started after starting the program. Or, perhaps, it is possible to get a specific game layout by clock freezing to one time, starting a game, perhaps doing some of it (thus initializing some parameters) and then quitting, possibly changing the clock, and starting another game.

Frankly, all that messing around turns play into work, IMHO. Except possibly for tournaments, I'll just take what I get.

--Pete

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