Anyone have Moomba's Trainer?

[LemmingofGlory]

Hi Lemmy, Pete, and other lurkers concerned with philosophical questions

The profound only interests me insofar as it has application. Profundity for the sake of profundity is irritating.

So, if the Moderator, LemmingofGlory does not object and thus delete this post – here are some questions in no particular order.

I just love how this depicts me as someone who has power and might use it (i.e. threatening) instead of depicting me based on how I've used my power.

Now for a series of questions:

How about you just ask the right question? "What is cheating in D1?"

The following assumes all players are playing the same game. It can be D1, HF, a mod, whatever. Comparing two characters playing different games serves no purpose, because cheating can only occur with respect to a specific game environment.

(1) Abusing game bugs for your benefit.
(2) Usage of third-party program to modify how the game works or change a game condition. Godmode, stat modification, learn all spells, free items. This includes using your operating system to restore a character who suffered a game-sanctioned loss (e.g. item loss because you died in H/H and couldn't retrieve them).
(3) Directly benefitting from another player engaging in (1) or (2).

Now, the practical purpose of all this is to determine two things:
(1 -- Multiplayer Aspect) Is this person someone I want to game with?
(2 -- Maintaining Gameplay Standards) If they have engaged in "shady practices," have they done something such that I discount any possible achievement they might make? This is also self-applicable : do I discount my own achievements with a character because I knowingly/unknowingly did some strange stuff?

"Legit" provides a standard for comparison of characters. At the Lounge, we believe playing the game is more than just "having fun." We're about learning the game, becoming proficient at it, understanding the game, and challenging yourself. People who're just out to "have fun" don't have the same standards that we do. And worse, they have a tendency to spread their low standards to others in multiplayer (i.e. cheating breeds cheating). That is unacceptable, so we will do everything in our power to prevent cheating.

If editors, trainers, and other aids can be permitted in some circumstances (Jarulf compiling his opus), then why the reluctance to provide ifb392 with directions to access the trainers he wanted. After all, what better place than Lurker’s Lounge (other than a modding site) to find the people with the necessary knowledge.

Profundity for the sake of profundity. Mix some realism in with your coffee, malach.

Assume that people act in their own best interest. Given that, what do you think he's going to use the trainer for?

-Lemmy