DII vs. Titan Quest
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Quote:Things that are overpowered in Diablo 1
Stone Curse
Teleport
Chain Lightning
Fireball
Mana Shield
Arguably, Awesome Plate (of the Suffix)

Things that are overpowered in Diablo 2
60% of the Rune Words. A good bit of the elite uniques. Holy Shield. Blessed Hammer. Teleport. Telekinesis (was fixed). Conviction. Lightning Fury. Charged Strike. War Cry. Dim Vision. Decripify. Smite.

I could go on for pages.

--me
:lol::rolleyes:

Hi,

I have to laugh.
Let me try to extend your list of "overpowered" things in DI and DII a bit:

DI
Suffix "of Haste"
Prefix "Archangels"
Suffix "of the Zodiac"
Suffix "of Heavens" (well, still)
Prefix "Emerald"
Prefix "Obsidian"
No resistance penalty in higher difficulties => even in hell, you basically only need two items for resistance and your set: 1 x Emerald, 1 x Obsidian; also no monster can reduce your resistance
No physical resistance on monsters
The spells you listed
The unconfined importance of AC for the survival of a char
All potions take instantaneous effect

I could obviously list some more.

DII
Rares (up to 6 mods)
Exceptional and Elite item classes
Runewords as such
The availibility of + skills on (nearly) all item classes
The skills you listed
Furthermore the skills Freezing Arrow, Valkyrie, Pierce, Tiger Strike (lvl 1 requirement!), Fade, Death Sentry, Amplify Damage, Corpse Explosion, Clay Golem, Battle Orders, Natural Resistance, Salvation, Fanaticism, Zeal (uninteruptable, basically), Frozen Orb, Static Field, Enchant (duration, pre-buff anyone?), Fury, Oak Sage
The ability to pre-buff
Hirelings, even equip-able
Prefix "Cruel"
Prefixes "Jeweler's" and to some extent "Artisan's"

I could obviously list some more.

I think you see where I'm getting. You can't just name all the good things that players use and say they are overpowered. If you feel that way, get yourself a chess program, set the difficulty to high and enjoy the "challenge".
Of all the things you listed, the ones I really can agree on are:

DI
Stone Curse (would be better if it didn't allow 100% cth, or if the monsters could still move, but very, very slowly)
Fireball (to some extent - around 600 maximum damage would have been enough instead of 1000)

DII
Runewords that grant aurae
Blessed hammer

Seriously, try playing singleplayer, no-twink, like when you re-start from scratch. Don't choose a disposasorc for your first char to gather items, perhaps even a melee class, and tell us how you fare when getting to hell.
Also note that there are tons of "underpowered" spells/skills and items in both games, too. This is crucial to balancing them (as far as balance is possible) and offers expert players additional challenges. If all spells/skills and items were the same - well, we'd go a little communist here, wouldn't we? And that has never quite worked out to date.

No offense.
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DII vs. Titan Quest - by Thecla - 10-13-2006, 03:28 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Maitre - 10-13-2006, 04:04 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-13-2006, 07:15 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Taem - 10-13-2006, 09:36 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Munkay - 10-13-2006, 09:39 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Ashock - 10-16-2006, 03:41 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by ShadowHM - 10-16-2006, 07:06 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-16-2006, 09:06 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Thecla - 10-17-2006, 12:27 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-18-2006, 07:57 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 10-18-2006, 09:15 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-19-2006, 12:00 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Thecla - 10-19-2006, 01:03 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Thecla - 10-19-2006, 01:46 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by bigeyedbug - 10-19-2006, 06:45 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-19-2006, 10:09 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by -Aerows- - 10-20-2006, 03:38 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 10-24-2006, 05:36 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Thecla - 10-25-2006, 01:08 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-25-2006, 11:13 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 10-26-2006, 08:40 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-27-2006, 07:39 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 10-27-2006, 10:16 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by --Pete - 10-28-2006, 12:06 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 10-28-2006, 02:06 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 10-30-2006, 08:08 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Ashock - 10-30-2006, 02:31 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by --Pete - 10-30-2006, 05:09 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 10-30-2006, 07:52 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by --Pete - 10-30-2006, 09:15 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Assur - 10-30-2006, 09:30 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Munkay - 10-30-2006, 10:33 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 10-31-2006, 12:10 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 10-31-2006, 08:03 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Brother Laz - 10-31-2006, 01:47 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-01-2006, 01:42 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by bigeyedbug - 11-02-2006, 02:43 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Aello - 11-03-2006, 02:13 AM
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DII vs. Titan Quest - by Zingydex - 11-05-2006, 02:42 PM
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DII vs. Titan Quest - by Munkay - 11-05-2006, 08:53 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-06-2006, 10:32 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-07-2006, 07:10 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-08-2006, 01:38 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-08-2006, 02:46 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by eppie - 11-08-2006, 01:22 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Zingydex - 11-08-2006, 02:25 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Munkay - 11-08-2006, 06:24 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by --Pete - 11-08-2006, 08:16 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-09-2006, 01:36 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Assur - 11-09-2006, 03:49 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-09-2006, 05:45 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Zingydex - 11-09-2006, 02:32 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-09-2006, 04:58 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-12-2006, 11:38 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Zingydex - 11-14-2006, 02:06 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-14-2006, 06:43 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-14-2006, 10:43 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by bigeyedbug - 11-15-2006, 12:20 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 11-15-2006, 09:43 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-22-2006, 01:02 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-22-2006, 01:41 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 11-22-2006, 06:56 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 11-22-2006, 10:33 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Baajikiil - 11-22-2006, 07:56 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 11-30-2006, 01:13 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 11-30-2006, 03:48 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 11-30-2006, 01:00 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 12-07-2006, 07:39 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Merlinios - 12-07-2006, 08:05 PM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Hammerskjold - 12-08-2006, 07:04 AM
DII vs. Titan Quest - by Fragbait - 12-08-2006, 07:42 AM
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