11-14-2006, 06:43 PM
Unless I severely misread you, it seems like the criteria includes cheating as a -natural- part of the game then. Allright, so let's apply that to D2.
You're right, it does surpass the predecessor in every way in that sense. D2\LoD has maphack, therefore the game is at fault for the level design. D2 has duped items\runes so it's the game's fault that item balance and trade economy suxx00rs. D2 has bots so it's the game's fault that Ladder competition isn't really worth anything. D1 once had TownKill, D2 once had drop hacks. And let's not forget multiplayer Battlenet. D1 is teeming with the unwashed masses, yearning to dupe and cheat and free to pursue that Godly Plate of Whale. D2 apparently has no such cads and bounders.
Yep, D2 is definitely better in every way. Unless you meant to apply that standard only to D1 and not to D2. Because obviously D2 has no cheats and cheaters, unlike D1 apparently.
>And NOT playing with dupes in D1 gets YOU destroyed if you're not lucky with finding gear (and spellbooks for that matter). That hasn't changed from one to the other.
I've played all 3 classes in Classic D1, unrestricted but no twink no trade, and all from scratch. And at least from my own experiences, the chances of finding useable gear and books is not as dire as you make it out to be. Even without the help of d00page or d3wprz.
>A warrior or rogue will bounce right off the tougher enemies if they don't have a VERY good weapon, and if a sorcerer's spells aren't up to snuff, he may as well forget it at the same point. And without strong armor, you're dead no matter what you do.
Out of the above, only the Warrior and Sorceror even comes close to your description. But even then Hell\Hell can be done without a KsoH. The Sorceror does need some high level spells, but from my own experiences at least, getting enough Fireball and CLightning books is easier than shopping\hunting for that super sword. The Rogue benefits from +damage bows at younger levels, but iirc as soon as she hits clvl 40 pretty much any bow will do. Even a regular non magical grade.
Then again maybe your experience is different. I personally don't care how long you or anyone has played D1, what's relevant here is how you played it. And something like d00ping imo is as much a part of the natural game as a typo in a Trivial Pursuit card. But hey, maybe it really was the 'Moops' who invaded Spain in the 8th century and not the 'Moors'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bubble_Bo...infeld_episode)
> if you play them right.
Yet your examples for D1 uses such sources as d00pers bl00pers for gameplay? Shouldn't you use the same standard for D2 then? Like how it's impossible for any melee builds in D2 to 'do anything' without a BotD or a LastWish?