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I have mixed feelings about the patch. There's a lot of good, which has been pretty well covered. I really wish the game had been released with the current design principles, instead of totally warped - there are some weird gaps now.

I gave my old barbarian a spin. I liked the inventory management system better when I was only picking up level 63 rares. It's great that it only takes 1 sec instead of 3 secs to identify a rare, but I go back to town to do this more than 3 times as often. It's still almost all junk.

I then put all my items in the stash and started hell act 1 with only the weapons armor from the first vendor and the rings/amulets from the 2nd vendor. It was a little rough at first, but surprisingly doable. I've quickly found items that make the game seem pretty easy. Granted 27 paragon levels and access to valor stack is causing me to find more items than a character playing the first time through, but wow hell seems easy now. I wonder what the point of having 4 difficulty levels is if the first 3 are all easy.

I had been playing a set of characters of each class untwinked except that they were sharing items and using the blacksmith. Things were getting interesting in nightmare - now there doesn't seem to be a point to that. It was interesting actually getting use out of the blacksmith - now it seems pointless.

Playing normal mode at a high monster power is now an interesting variation. I like how the game feels with just scary regular monsters and no champion packs with brutal combinations. Too bad your skills are so limited at the low levels.

(10-21-2012, 05:20 PM)Archon_Wing Wrote: I posted the following on the b.net forums, when people were complaining that 1.05 would wreck the economy.

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Sacrifice economy so people can loot their own gear and maybe someday wear stuff they found themselves, and not have to be at the mercy of gold botther's price fixing?

Sure, I came to play a game, not attempt to make a pretty penny every now and then. I don't care if I don't sell another item on the AH anymore as long as I can find things worth keeping.

I remember when the RMAH came out and you could literally put any junk out there and get a few bucks from it. Sure that was amusing but I didn't complain when the market tightened. If I wanted money, I'd be better off in the middle of the street with a cup in front of me.

High end gear will always be valuable. It will be like in Diablo 2 where trading for gear to beat the game ezpz will be cheap but the perfect rolls will be collectors items and that is what everyone strives to one day get, not the marginal upgrade after 1000 hours of grinding.

Besides, in 1.04 you could gear to beat the game for less than a million. And 1.04 inferno was easy, so for most players, they didn't need to bat an eye at the better items. I mean what would they use them for? Farm faster? For even more crappy drops?

Now, the goalpost is a lot higher with MP and now people may have a reason to want to upgrade the gear. Meanwhile the casuals are steamrolling Mp0-3 with gear they earned/found and could care less. They have access to the best drops to the game. If they want a better chance, they they will have to put some effort into gearing up and move up. But it's not required.

It is not like release anymore. Shutting the masses out from inferno act 2 and beyond was a disaster since they were denied the best loot and with the low level cap, they had no reason to play. Now, whether it is Mp 0 Inferno or Mp10 Inferno, any fool has a chance of the best loot in the game. Of course, the godly will be able to do the higher MP levels and thus get far better drops. That's how it should be. Sure not anyone can do ubers but it's only 1 item, which is miles apart from the situation from 1.02 and 1.03 where the gulf between rich and poor was massive. 1.03 was arguably the worst, since the content was easier but the repair costs penalized certain people from merely playing the game.

TL;DR This feels more like Diablo, not a crappy watered down version of WOW.
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Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 09-14-2012, 06:35 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by FoxBat - 09-14-2012, 07:50 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-14-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 09-14-2012, 08:42 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-14-2012, 10:09 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by ErickTheRed - 09-16-2012, 02:04 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MonTy - 09-17-2012, 01:23 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by LochnarITB - 09-17-2012, 03:56 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MonTy - 09-17-2012, 04:07 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Concillian - 09-17-2012, 06:49 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-17-2012, 06:20 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-17-2012, 08:19 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Concillian - 09-17-2012, 04:41 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-17-2012, 09:23 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by ErickTheRed - 09-18-2012, 02:50 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-20-2012, 06:22 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 09-20-2012, 07:05 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 09-21-2012, 10:00 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-21-2012, 11:45 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MonTy - 09-21-2012, 03:29 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MonTy - 09-22-2012, 12:42 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Mavfin - 09-23-2012, 11:31 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 09-26-2012, 08:21 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MongoJerry - 09-24-2012, 07:40 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Treesh - 09-26-2012, 03:15 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Athenau - 09-25-2012, 02:23 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 09-27-2012, 07:21 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 09-27-2012, 07:53 PM
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RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MonTy - 10-15-2012, 11:55 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by LochnarITB - 10-16-2012, 12:15 AM
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RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Concillian - 10-16-2012, 12:19 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 10-16-2012, 01:41 AM
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RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by MongoJerry - 10-18-2012, 01:09 AM
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RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Athenau - 10-17-2012, 01:44 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Frag - 10-19-2012, 07:40 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 10-20-2012, 10:20 PM
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RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 10-21-2012, 05:20 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by ErickTheRed - 10-21-2012, 07:11 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 10-21-2012, 10:56 PM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by ErickTheRed - 10-22-2012, 12:32 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Chesspiece_face - 10-22-2012, 05:03 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by FoxBat - 10-21-2012, 08:32 AM
RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Archon_Wing - 10-22-2012, 05:38 PM
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RE: Patch 1.05 Preview - by Treesh - 10-24-2012, 12:36 AM
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