Crit / meteor build
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(10-10-2012, 08:55 PM)MongoJerry Wrote: I quickly chose not to use those options (Energy Twister / Explosive Blast) in 1.0.3, because the proc rates on Spectral Blades and Meteor were so much better and didn't have those spells' limitations.

For the record, this table is what I use to compare proc coefficients for spells / runes. Wherein we learn:

Quote:Every time you use a skill in order to proc an effect (fear on it or bleed for example) you have to multiply the probability given in the description of the effect by the proc ratio of the skill you use to have the real probability that the effect occurs using that skill.

and

Quote:dot : damage over time
tick : one damage of a damage over time
speed coef : you have to multiply your attack speed by this value to know the number of tick/cast per second. by default it is one. (but we believe that is not so simple : see page 4-5 Big Grin)
no anim : the spell could or could not trigger an animation but does not need one.
channel : mean that you can maintain the incantation of the spell
the text in italic concern point that need more testing.

and

Quote:Energy twister cast speed coef : 1, tick speed coef : 2
Rune 0 : 0.125 [1/8] per tick (stack)
Rune 1 - Mistral Breeze : 0.125 [1/8] per tick (stack)
Rune 2 - Gale Force : 0.125 [1/8] per tick (stack)
Rune 3 - Raging Storm : 0.125 [1/8] per tick (stack) - big twister : 0.125 [1/8] per tick (stack)
Rune 4 - Wicked Wind : 0.125 [1/8] per tick (stack) *
Rune 5 - Storm Chaser : 0.500 [1/2] per tick (stack) - purple tornado non dependent of the number of stack : 0.500 [1/2] (no anim)

Spectral blade
Rune 0 : 0.222 [2/9] (3 time)
Rune 1 - Deep Cuts : 0.222 [2/9] (3 time) - dot : a unique roll 0.222 [2/9] for all 12 time over 3 seconds. LoH, AD and CM is proced by the initial roll wich occure at the first of the 12 time, CM is also proced by all other 11 time. However you still have to roll a critical on each time to trigger CM
Rune 2 - Impactful Blade : 0.222 [2/9] (3 time)
Rune 3 - Siphoning Blade : 0.222 [2/9] (3 time)
Rune 4 - Healing Blades : 0.222 [2/9] (3 time)
Rune 5 - Thrown Blade : 0.111 [1/9] (3 time)

Meteor
Rune 0 : 0.250 [1/4] - dot* : 0.250 [1/4] (3 time over 3 seconds stack)
Rune 1 - Molten Impact : 0.250 [1/4] - dot* : 0.250 [1/4] (3 time over 3 seconds stack)
Rune 2 - Star Pact : 0.250 [1/4] - dot* : 0.250 [1/4] (3 time over 3 seconds stack)
Rune 3 - Meteor Shower : 0.100 [1/10] per small meteor (7 meteors) - dot** : 0.100 [1/10] (2 time over 1.5 seconds stack)
Rune 4 - Comet : 0.250 [1/4] - dot* : 0.250 [1/4] (3 time over 3 seconds stack)
Rune 5 - Liquefy : 0.250 [1/4] - dot* : 0.250 [1/4] (3/8 time over 3/8 seconds stack)

These values are current as of 1.04.

I copied all the coefficient nerfs I could find in the 1.05 patch notes:

Quote:Energy Twister
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.25 to 0.125 (1.04)
Skill Rune - Wicked Wind
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.5 to 0.125 (1.04)
Skill Rune - Storm Chaser
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.5 to 0.125

Meteor
Proc coefficient (base skill + all other runes not listed) reduced from 0.25 to 0.125
Skill Rune - Star Pact
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.25 to 0.10625
Skill Rune - Meteor Shower
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.1 to 0.05
Skill Rune - Liquefy
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.125 to 0.10625

Ray of Frost
Skill Rune – Sleet Storm
Proc scalar reduced from 0.25 to 0.1875

Spectral Blade
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.222 to 0.14
Skill Rune - Thrown Blades
Proc coefficient reduced from 0.111 to 0.08

Comparing proc coefficients alone doesn't seem to tell the story. What is the algebra that makes the distinction among Energy Twister / Storm Chaser, Spectral Blade / Deep Cuts, and Meteor / Star Pact, when proc coefficients are updated, as to which is best (mathematically) for CM builds in 1.05?
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Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 06-29-2012, 02:35 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Quark - 06-29-2012, 11:24 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-02-2012, 03:46 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-03-2012, 04:32 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-02-2012, 05:17 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-02-2012, 04:55 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-03-2012, 05:13 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by NuurAbSaal - 07-03-2012, 09:26 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-03-2012, 08:28 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-03-2012, 10:50 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-04-2012, 05:44 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-05-2012, 05:52 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-06-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-09-2012, 04:16 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-09-2012, 06:21 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-09-2012, 07:42 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-09-2012, 08:10 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-09-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-10-2012, 06:27 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-09-2012, 09:26 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-10-2012, 09:50 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-10-2012, 11:55 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-11-2012, 12:09 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-11-2012, 02:33 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-11-2012, 05:36 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-11-2012, 08:52 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-11-2012, 09:44 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-11-2012, 01:35 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-11-2012, 01:55 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-11-2012, 03:09 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-11-2012, 07:10 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-12-2012, 12:49 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-12-2012, 02:24 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-12-2012, 09:06 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-12-2012, 09:37 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-13-2012, 02:26 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-13-2012, 11:51 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-13-2012, 06:04 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-13-2012, 11:11 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-14-2012, 12:04 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-14-2012, 12:14 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-14-2012, 12:47 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-14-2012, 11:23 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-17-2012, 05:09 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-17-2012, 05:25 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by NuurAbSaal - 07-17-2012, 08:28 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-17-2012, 10:09 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by NuurAbSaal - 07-18-2012, 06:10 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 07-18-2012, 07:41 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by NuurAbSaal - 07-18-2012, 09:37 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-18-2012, 10:31 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by NuurAbSaal - 07-20-2012, 08:07 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-18-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-20-2012, 02:15 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-20-2012, 09:08 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-22-2012, 11:53 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 07-23-2012, 07:35 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-20-2012, 08:41 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by NuurAbSaal - 07-20-2012, 09:06 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 07-21-2012, 05:40 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ErickTheRed - 07-23-2012, 12:27 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 07-23-2012, 01:13 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 09-17-2012, 12:28 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 09-21-2012, 03:44 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 09-22-2012, 12:27 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 09-24-2012, 05:11 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 09-26-2012, 06:46 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by vor_lord - 09-24-2012, 08:44 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 09-27-2012, 11:32 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 09-28-2012, 06:24 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 09-28-2012, 04:22 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 09-28-2012, 10:56 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 09-29-2012, 12:54 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 09-29-2012, 02:03 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 09-29-2012, 02:10 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 09-28-2012, 11:17 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 09-30-2012, 05:01 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 10-09-2012, 05:16 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 10-09-2012, 06:15 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 10-10-2012, 02:03 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 10-10-2012, 06:33 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 10-10-2012, 08:32 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 10-10-2012, 08:55 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 10-11-2012, 07:23 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 10-11-2012, 07:41 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 10-14-2012, 07:13 PM
CM build proc nerfs 1.05 - by Spangles - 10-11-2012, 10:24 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 10-13-2012, 05:59 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 10-13-2012, 03:00 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 10-16-2012, 11:02 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 10-17-2012, 10:43 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MongoJerry - 10-17-2012, 11:10 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by MonTy - 10-18-2012, 12:42 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Spangles - 10-18-2012, 03:57 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Concillian - 10-30-2012, 04:11 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by FireIceTalon - 12-23-2012, 07:44 PM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by ViralSpiral - 06-01-2014, 03:03 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by FireIceTalon - 06-01-2014, 06:17 AM
RE: Crit / meteor build - by Aahzmadius - 06-02-2014, 12:58 PM

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