Whirlwind Breakpoints
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I am not sure if I understand what is being communicated in this thread, so I would like to try two sample calculations below and ask you to help me correct any mistakes.

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Example #1: WW with a Giant Thresher that is socketed with one Shael.

a1_frames = 19
anim speed = 256
weapon ias = 20
wsm = 10

delay = a1_frames*256 / ((weapon ias+wsm+100)*anim speed/100) = 14.61

Looking at Hammerman's breakpoint table, a "delay" of 14.61 would correspond to a "real delay" of 8 frames. The sequence of events in one WW will therefore be...

Frame #0: Start WW
Frame #4: 1st free hit
Frame #8: 2nd free hit
Frame #12: 4 frames have passed since last hit. No hits here since "real delay" (8) has not passed.
Frame #16: 8 frames have passed since last hit. 3rd WW hit applied since "real delay" (8) has passed.
Frame #20: 4 frames have passed since last hit. No hits here since "real delay" (8) has not passed.
Frame #24: 8 frames have passed since last hit. 4th WW hit applied since "real delay" (8) has passed.
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Example #2: Dual wield WW with Lightsabre in right hand and Doombringer in left
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For Lightsabre we have...

a1_frames = 16
anim speed = 256
weapon ias = 20
wsm = 30

delay = a1_frames*256 / ((weapon ias+wsm+100)*anim speed/100) = 10.67

real delay = 6
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For Doombringer we have...

a1_frames = 16
anim speed = 256
weapon ias = 0
wsm = 10

delay = a1_frames*256 / ((weapon ias+wsm+100)*anim speed/100) = 16.78

real delay = 10
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The WW swquence is therefore...

Frame #0: Start WW
Frame #4: 1st free hit, with Lightsabre
Frame #8: 2nd free hit, with Doombringer
Frame #12: 4 frames have passed since last hit. No hits here since "real delay" for Lightsabre (6) has not passed.
Frame #16: 8 frames have passed since last hit. 3rd WW hit with Lightsabre is applied since "real delay" (6) has passed.
Frame #20: 4 frames have passed since last hit. No hits here since "real delay" for Doombringer (10) has not passed.
Frame #24: 8 frames have passed since last hit. No hits here since "real delay" for Doombringer (10) has not passed.
Frame #30: 12 frames have passed since last hit. 4th WW hit with Doombringer is applied since "real delay" (10) has passed.
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Several questions I still have are:

1): What is one unit of WW? Or in other words, how can I tell when the WW sequences in the above samples will end and grant me two more free hits with more mana consumed?

2): Is it true that there is a cap on hits per WW at "weapon range +3"? Or is there a cap at all?

3): How do I read Hammerman's breakpoint table for "delay" to "real delay" conversion? If the "delay" is 5, should I go for 4 frame or 6 frame "real delay"?

4): Why are "real delay" values always even? Is this just how it is coded in game, or have the odd values been omitted?

5): Is there some point along the formula where I should round up or down?
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Archon_Wing - 05-17-2003, 11:42 PM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Elric of Grans - 05-18-2003, 12:05 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Archon_Wing - 05-18-2003, 12:13 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Guest - 05-18-2003, 12:57 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Bullit - 05-18-2003, 01:09 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Elric of Grans - 05-18-2003, 01:40 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Dagni - 05-18-2003, 02:54 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Elric of Grans - 05-18-2003, 02:59 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Guest - 05-18-2003, 02:30 PM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Hammerman - 05-18-2003, 06:47 PM
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Ruvanal - 05-18-2003, 11:42 PM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Hammerman - 05-19-2003, 12:31 AM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Brista - 05-19-2003, 03:39 AM
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Hammerman - 05-19-2003, 08:36 PM
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by AegisFang - 05-19-2003, 11:20 PM
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Ruvanal - 05-25-2003, 12:41 PM
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Loschonorg - 05-27-2003, 02:09 AM
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Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Brista - 05-27-2003, 03:21 PM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Zath - 05-27-2003, 04:34 PM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Hammerman - 05-27-2003, 08:32 PM
Whirlwind Breakpoints - by Loschonorg - 05-28-2003, 05:20 AM
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