Whirlwind Breakpoints
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Ruvanal,May 18 2003, 11:33 PM Wrote:1hs
frames WIAS-WSM
12        -20
10        -19 to -11
8          -10 to +7
6          +8 to +33
4          +34 and up

2hs
12        -20 to -10
10        -11 to 0
8          +1 to +20
6          +21 to +50
4          +51 and up

2ht or stf
14        -20 to -18
12        -17 to -5
10        -5 to +5
8          +6 to +26
6          +27 to +58
4          +59 and up
This is very intresting as it contradicts the known formula for WW breakpoints, but still confirms them :)

1 hs breakpoints are 8 and 34, but are listed as 10 and 35. Academical diffrence since neither 8 nor 34 is atainable on a weapon, but confirms the formula.
2 hs breakpoints are 6, 27 and 51, but are listed as 10, 30 and 60. If the formula is correct this is a diffrence since you CAN reach 55%
2 ht breakpoints are 6, 27 and 59, but are listed as 10, 30 and 60. Again only an academical diffrence, but confirms the formula.

My bet is that most testing have been done on other stuff than swords wielded 2 handed, but testing at 50 and 60 with a 2 handed sword COULD give confirmation to a bp at 60.

There is also another question as for how often it hits. As i have understood WW is an area of effect skill. The aoe is decided by the range of the weapon beeing used. I think, from playing a ww baba quite a bit that WW dosnt hit just anything inside the aoe tho. Its more like it has 3 distinct directions it checks for things to hit. Ill try to illsutrate with this diagram. (this is not from any kind of testing tho, so i might be mistaken)

__X__
__B__
X___X

The question is WHERE does WW try to hit each time it checks? There are several options here and for all that i know it might check for any random monster within the aoe. I guess it only hits once every time tho so that you wont hit MORE monsters by ww'ing thru a herd compared to one monster, except for the fact that you have monsters inside the aoe more of the time.

Last question, using 2 weapons means supposedly that you hit 50% faster. Does that mean that it checks every 2 frames or instead of 4 what?

edit: changed diagram
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