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12-29-2005, 05:04 PM

Jester,Dec 29 2005, 07:31 AM Wrote:Positing *any* such being is completely arbitary... [right][snapback]98217[/snapback][/right]

If effects necessarily have causes, then it wouldn't it appear that positing a first cause is not arbitrary, but quite the opposite, necessary?

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This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by SwissMercenary - 12-23-2005, 03:30 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by DeeBye - 12-23-2005, 04:25 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Bun-Bun - 12-23-2005, 05:19 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 06:39 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Ashock - 12-23-2005, 06:41 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 06:52 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by eppie - 12-23-2005, 08:14 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Flymo - 12-23-2005, 12:09 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 02:28 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 02:45 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 02:50 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 03:05 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 03:10 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 03:11 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 03:19 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 03:29 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 03:40 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 03:44 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 03:45 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 03:50 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 03:54 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 03:55 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 04:02 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 04:21 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 05:08 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 05:30 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 05:38 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by jahcs - 12-23-2005, 06:03 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 06:22 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-23-2005, 07:08 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-23-2005, 07:22 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 07:28 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 07:29 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 07:34 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-23-2005, 07:34 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 07:35 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 07:38 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 07:39 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 07:39 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-23-2005, 07:41 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 07:55 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 07:57 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-23-2005, 08:14 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 08:25 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 08:29 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-23-2005, 08:29 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 08:36 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-23-2005, 08:41 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-23-2005, 08:42 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 08:46 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-23-2005, 09:46 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-23-2005, 10:48 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-23-2005, 11:54 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by swirly - 12-24-2005, 02:11 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-24-2005, 03:35 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-24-2005, 03:38 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-24-2005, 03:44 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-24-2005, 03:46 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Ashock - 12-24-2005, 10:18 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-24-2005, 01:25 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Munkay - 12-24-2005, 05:51 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-24-2005, 06:21 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-24-2005, 11:01 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-24-2005, 11:20 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-25-2005, 12:59 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Munkay - 12-25-2005, 07:07 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Drasca - 12-25-2005, 09:10 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-25-2005, 01:24 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-26-2005, 04:06 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Alram - 12-26-2005, 04:28 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-26-2005, 04:32 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-26-2005, 08:51 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Rhydderch Hael - 12-26-2005, 09:05 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-26-2005, 09:40 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-26-2005, 09:52 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Assur - 12-27-2005, 12:28 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-27-2005, 12:45 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-27-2005, 12:45 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-27-2005, 04:28 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-27-2005, 04:29 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Rhydderch Hael - 12-27-2005, 05:14 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-27-2005, 08:37 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-27-2005, 10:41 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-27-2005, 10:47 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-27-2005, 10:56 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-28-2005, 12:02 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-28-2005, 12:12 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-28-2005, 01:17 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-28-2005, 02:28 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-28-2005, 02:31 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-28-2005, 02:43 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-28-2005, 03:16 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-28-2005, 05:17 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-28-2005, 12:49 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-28-2005, 06:39 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Guest - 12-28-2005, 07:27 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 12-29-2005, 12:01 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-29-2005, 12:30 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-29-2005, 01:11 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-29-2005, 03:01 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-29-2005, 03:03 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-29-2005, 03:12 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-29-2005, 03:28 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-29-2005, 03:44 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-29-2005, 07:31 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by eppie - 12-29-2005, 10:23 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-29-2005, 05:04 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-29-2005, 08:03 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-29-2005, 08:58 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-29-2005, 09:57 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-29-2005, 10:52 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-29-2005, 11:08 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-30-2005, 12:10 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-30-2005, 02:45 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-30-2005, 04:21 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Assur - 12-30-2005, 04:26 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Thecla - 12-30-2005, 07:02 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Ashock - 12-30-2005, 07:26 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Thecla - 12-30-2005, 07:54 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-30-2005, 04:22 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 12-30-2005, 04:57 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 12-30-2005, 08:25 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-30-2005, 08:34 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 12-30-2005, 08:47 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Thecla - 12-30-2005, 08:58 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Doc - 12-30-2005, 09:00 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-30-2005, 10:01 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Thecla - 12-30-2005, 11:12 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by jahcs - 12-31-2005, 12:06 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-31-2005, 12:32 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-31-2005, 12:33 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 12-31-2005, 12:42 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Drasca - 12-31-2005, 01:04 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Thecla - 12-31-2005, 01:40 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Thecla - 12-31-2005, 06:27 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-31-2005, 08:52 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 12-31-2005, 09:01 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 12-31-2005, 03:42 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 12-31-2005, 06:50 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Artega - 01-01-2006, 06:40 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 01-01-2006, 06:47 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by LemmingofGlory - 01-02-2006, 06:57 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 01-02-2006, 09:29 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 01-02-2006, 10:31 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 01-02-2006, 11:55 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 01-03-2006, 01:52 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-03-2006, 02:52 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 01-03-2006, 03:37 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by LemmingofGlory - 01-03-2006, 06:50 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Jester - 01-03-2006, 06:55 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by whyBish - 01-03-2006, 10:34 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by whyBish - 01-03-2006, 10:37 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by whyBish - 01-03-2006, 10:41 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 01-03-2006, 05:07 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 01-03-2006, 05:37 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 01-03-2006, 05:41 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-03-2006, 06:44 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by wakim - 01-03-2006, 07:11 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 01-03-2006, 08:14 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 01-03-2006, 08:57 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-03-2006, 10:57 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by GenericKen - 01-04-2006, 06:39 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-04-2006, 03:04 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 01-04-2006, 09:13 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Gurnsey - 01-04-2006, 10:10 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by --Pete - 01-05-2006, 12:16 AM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-05-2006, 06:16 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Chesspiece_face - 01-05-2006, 07:43 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 01-05-2006, 08:53 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-05-2006, 09:07 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-05-2006, 09:20 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by kandrathe - 01-05-2006, 09:35 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by Occhidiangela - 01-05-2006, 10:08 PM

This re-instated what passes for faith in humanity - by BruceGod - 01-08-2006, 09:01 PM

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