12-29-2005, 12:11 AM
Darian,Dec 28 2005, 08:03 PM Wrote:revenge is NEVER the primary method of aggro generation, because it's entirely dependent on whether it gets triggered. If revenge lights up, a smart tank is going to hit the button regardless of what their opinion is on proper aggro management.
it may be semantics but it seems to me what you're really saying is that Revenge is ALWAYS the primary method of aggro generation, just that it's not always available. But still it's always first choice
Quote: Sunder: higher rage cost, lower aggro generation, but perpetually available as long as rage is
Shield Bash: lower cost, higher aggro, but subject to cooldown and potentially dangerous to NOT have available precisely when you need it
Also Sunder = useful debuff whereas bash on a non-caster is a useless debuff. Plus Sunder = more subsequent Rogue/Warrior/Hunter threat (since you will hence hit harder) which may help if your main aggro rival is healer or spell dps. Finally Sunder labels the mob as under a certain amount of tank control which is very useful for the tank (scroll through, which one isn't sundered yet?) and for the dps (which one can I nuke?)
From Olon's post:
3. Sunder Armor - 1050 total hate.
4. Shield Bash - 930 total hate.
Skills by hate/rage efficiency on a single target (50% mob dmg reduction):
2. Shield Bash - 93 hate per rage.
3. Sunder Armor - 70(88) hate per rage.
Quote: For my part, the decision on which to use is patently obvious
Is this in the context of 40-man raids? If so you're probably right, if not then I don't think you've made an overwhelming case. If you think Sunder in the Scarlet monastery is a glaring mistake I'd be interested to know why. Most healers i know are delighted to see Sunder, it's a hell of a step up from Whirlwind and Cleave