12-28-2005, 10:54 PM
The wiki is most likely refering to the shield block + sunder tanking method as that combo is 15 rage as well and will garuntee a sunder when you want one. Since tanking smaller stuff is about rage management and generating the 15 rage for another sunder my very likely take 5 seconds as well, the cooldown on those skills is likely up when have enough rage to use them.
I know growing up as a tank when I had improved revenge, especially before I had conc blow I often hit shield block just to get a revenge in as that is more aggro than a sunder is and turns out to be 91 vs 88 hate per rage so really essentially the same. So yes Gnolack was a revenge tank growing up as well and since always favored dodge and parry and defense when I could get it I eventually got revenge to light up pretty much constantly when tanking more than one mob even without using shield block.
I didn't really turn into a sunder monkey until they changed the improved sunder to lower the rage cost which was about the time my block dodge and parry were sitting at 30% + (they are at about 43% now) combined making revenge mostly always available as well.
Yes I would use a sunder early to help get more early aggro but even on multi mobs I would use the revenge to help hold other mobs if I could. Shield bash has always been used liberally (and it is the best on demand rage/hate since you need shield block to make revenge essentially on demand adding 10 rage).
Now I use sunder as the primary and don't try to force revenges to help but yes revenge gets used whenever I can use it. :)
I know growing up as a tank when I had improved revenge, especially before I had conc blow I often hit shield block just to get a revenge in as that is more aggro than a sunder is and turns out to be 91 vs 88 hate per rage so really essentially the same. So yes Gnolack was a revenge tank growing up as well and since always favored dodge and parry and defense when I could get it I eventually got revenge to light up pretty much constantly when tanking more than one mob even without using shield block.
I didn't really turn into a sunder monkey until they changed the improved sunder to lower the rage cost which was about the time my block dodge and parry were sitting at 30% + (they are at about 43% now) combined making revenge mostly always available as well.
Yes I would use a sunder early to help get more early aggro but even on multi mobs I would use the revenge to help hold other mobs if I could. Shield bash has always been used liberally (and it is the best on demand rage/hate since you need shield block to make revenge essentially on demand adding 10 rage).
Now I use sunder as the primary and don't try to force revenges to help but yes revenge gets used whenever I can use it. :)
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It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.
It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.