Bad Tactical Memes

[bonemage]

I would say the wiki quote is an oversimplification. A good warrior should use the best skill at the right time, weighing it against other circumstances such as cooldowns and everything else in the fight. But, I could easily be classified as a warrior whose primary aggro generation skill is Revenge, and it's why I disagree with you on the point of it not being a "Primary" aggro skill. I don't disagree with you on skill prioritization.

I am not a raid tank like you, Darian, I do 4 or 5 man groupings (don't have a raiding guild) currently, and the approach is different. I'm trying to be sure I have just enough aggro on everything to not lose aggro, then the rest of my rage goes towards damage. In a raid environment, it seems that with one big target to hold for a really long time, the approach is to go for maximum hate, from start to finish, which is different than 5 manning. In a 5 man, rather than maximum hate, I go for minimum hate to get the job done so I can do as much damage as possible. Revenge is the most rage/aggro efficient skill, and is my tanking bread and butter. Also, as far as Revenge being triggered enough to be useful, when I'm tanking 3 mobs, in the cooldown time after a revenge, there's a nearly 100% chance I will block, dodge, or parry one of those 3 mob's attacks, allowing me to revenge again as soon as it is off of cooldown. With one, very powerful, possibly slow but heavy hitting mob, the story changes, and Revenge could NOT be considered a primary aggro skill, but against multiple mobs, it can be your primary skill. It should be noted that I am NOT a "taunt" tank, who relies heavily on taunt to put himself at the top of the list. Taunt is used to quickly and safely ensure that I am at the top of the hate list when taunt wears off, if I find I'm not at the top of the list.

So, I don't share your hatred of the wiki posting, and may likely be one of those warriors you're referring to (I think this topic came up on TeamSpeak while we were in WC together) who bring up that idea in game. I do take issue with Revenge not being considered a primary aggro skill. I use it so much that I feel that MOST of my aggro comes from that skill than any other single skill. That is why I would define it as my primary aggro generating skill, and why I would disagree with you when you say it is stupid. I would hazard a guess that the average mob gets 3-4 revenges, 1-2 sunders, 1-2 shield slams. So, in summary, I feel the wiki post is neither stupid nor garbage, just really, really light on details. Your tanking skill summary is much more accurate, and could only hope that more tanks read it. However, I consider your words "never", "stupid", and "nonsense" regarding Revenge to be wrong in some cases, and have tried to illustrate when and how they are in an effort to open up some minds on this topic.

As I am the main tank for the Lurkers on the Terenas realm, people might want to read some sort of rivalry between us. I'm not after that at all, I have a tremendous amount of respect for what the Avarice Alliance has done, and for what you have done, Darian. I see just a small part in organizing raids and parties, and have a tiny idea of what you deal with all the time. Hopefully, that dispels any feud thoughts that anyone might have. With that said, I'm merely trying to open up some minds on this.