Shouldnt Bush be impeached for spying on US citize
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kandrathe,Dec 21 2005, 11:21 AM Wrote:I see a huge difference between Bush's use of executive authority and the abuse by Nixon which led to FISA.  When this was reported by the NY Times, the administration response was to  say "Yes we did that, and we have the authority to do it to fight Al Queda and shame on the leaker who just aided the terrorists", contrasted with Nixon's abuse of power to spy on his political enemies and a huge cover up.
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OK, difference in tone. Some would attribute that to arrogance or hubris rather than any moral responsibility or penchant for forthright action. There are times I agree with that assessment.

Quote:I agree with you though, that the better solution would have been to make a fix to FISA, if it was broken such that the NSA had to look for loopholes to do their jobs.
Not would have been, is. The is still a need to take legislative action. Fix the problem that needs addressing, be it via amendment to FISA or a statute clearly addressing Fourth Generation Warfare. The Patriot Act, having been rushed into place, is also in serious need of either overhaul or consignment to the dustbin. The badminton match most recently played is a first step, I suppose, but Congress needs to get back into the weeds of that effort and dig out some of the more egregious garbage, such as the tie in to gun control. :angry:

My local Rep to Congress is a moral coward. Solomon P. Ortiz. On the Patriot Act vote recently, he . . . abstained. Or maybe he was taking a siesta that day and woke up too late to vote. 22 years as the lackey of the local Canales-Longoria (yes, Eva's extended family, she came from money) power block down here, and he's as noticeable in the House as a page, while both less literate and less eloquent.

Occhi
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