Shouldnt Bush be impeached for spying on US citize
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Occhidiangela,Dec 18 2005, 05:17 PM Wrote:Today's paper pointed out that there was a 1978 law that set up a court, or board, through which security sensitive warrants/taps could be vetted. I am going to look into more on that topic before I comment on that piece, but I see two problems.

Justice/FBI have been stovepiped vis a vis Intelligence for years.  Look at the 9-11 commission report, for what it is worth, and the Able Danger issue still in work for how that left significant cracks in the security wall.

The last 30 years have significantly changed, security wise, with the Information Age.  Legislation and policy, IMO, have not caught up.  Getting the policies changed is hard, as most people are clueless on how war, information war, is waged and fought.  But doint that hard job is exactly the President's and the Congress' job.  I don't think the Patriot Act covers the NSA taps, and it has its own shortcomings. 

Many very smart people can't seem to understand that "war" and "economic war" and "propaganda war" are part of a continuum, not a set of stovepiped or discrete products.  This leads them to follow idiotic policies, and fight the last information war, as it were, sort of like using cavalry against attack helicopters. 

The problem of weak policy is no excuse to break the law.  :angry: 

I think President Bush's critics are going to milk this cow until it is dry, and will use it as leverage in the 2006 elections.  If a bit more comes to light on the dealings with Congress regarding the Iraq War, it could be enough to send him packing.

Should be interesting, particularly as he has been completely unapologetic about the wire tap.   

Who here is ready for Dick Cheney to be President?  :whistling:

Occhi
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Here's the act: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act

I can't remember where it is in the act, but someone did point out to me that in the act is says that it is illegal to monitor a US citizen without a warrant which is what Bush has done, monitored US Citizens with connections to international terrorism without warrants from the court setup by FISA. Until Bush came along, there has been a warrant issued for each and every use of wire taps against US Citizens (one was retroactively applied, but was still asked for since there was a time sensitive need to get the information). So Bush broke the law involving FISA.
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