Shouldnt Bush be impeached for spying on US citize
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Ghostiger,Dec 17 2005, 10:43 PM Wrote:This is kind of a mess but. It seems pretty clear they blatently and purposefully broke the law.
I think impeachment is the only way to even hold someone accountable for this.(I could be mistaken of course.)

Clinton was impeached a laughable crime, it would seem rather absurd to let this slide.
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Today's paper pointed out that there was a 1978 law that set up a court, or board, through which security sensitive warrants/taps could be vetted. I am going to look into more on that topic before I comment on that piece, but I see two problems.

Justice/FBI have been stovepiped vis a vis Intelligence for years. Look at the 9-11 commission report, for what it is worth, and the Able Danger issue still in work for how that left significant cracks in the security wall.

The last 30 years have significantly changed, security wise, with the Information Age. Legislation and policy, IMO, have not caught up. Getting the policies changed is hard, as most people are clueless on how war, information war, is waged and fought. But doint that hard job is exactly the President's and the Congress' job. I don't think the Patriot Act covers the NSA taps, and it has its own shortcomings.

Many very smart people can't seem to understand that "war" and "economic war" and "propaganda war" are part of a continuum, not a set of stovepiped or discrete products. This leads them to follow idiotic policies, and fight the last information war, as it were, sort of like using cavalry against attack helicopters.

The problem of weak policy is no excuse to break the law. :angry:

I think President Bush's critics are going to milk this cow until it is dry, and will use it as leverage in the 2006 elections. If a bit more comes to light on the dealings with Congress regarding the Iraq War, it could be enough to send him packing.

Should be interesting, particularly as he has been completely unapologetic about the wire tap.

Who here is ready for Dick Cheney to be President? :whistling:

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