Anyone else looking at Vanguard?

[Quark]

The problem with 5-man content is that it doesn't scale like raid content does. Want to do BWL? Better gear up in MC first. Want to do DM? Ok! You're wearing level 50 greens? No problem!

Hearing this makes me sad, because I think of how Scholomance and Live-side Stratholme were pre-nerfing. How many people back then were screaming at the difficulty of them? There's also only so much you can do with only 5-man party fights. DM has the best of this right now, thinking of the Prince, Ogre King, and Captain Kromcrush fights.

The difficulty of group content is dissapointing. Currently, the only end-game progression is raiding. That's the only path to recieve superior gear. Why can't they make challenging group content that requires gear from a previous dungeon if you want a chance at succeding?

Maybe we'll see that with new 5-mans, but it's too late to do it with the current ones. Watch that "require" carefully, though. Our first Ony kill was with very few epics overall, mostly greens and blues. It's certainly much easier now, but the only way to truly make something required is to put in a fight like Ragnaros, where if you don't have X fire resist, chances are you're gonna die. It's either resists or you highly inflate how good gear currently is to make it "required" for the next step.

In no way do I think the raid gear should be the same as group gear, it should be better but not so disgustingly better that it screws up BGs (which has already happened).
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BGs are not screwed up because of items aquired in raids. They're screwed up because of organized versus pubbie, caster versus melee, and honor grinding. In one AV, I was taking particular pleasure in singling out a Rogue with Perdition's Blade , Core Hound Tooth and what looked like a mish-mash of Nightslayer and Bloodfang. In our 6 solo fights, I won 5 and he won 1. Yes, this was before I got my new weapons. It's not all about the gear.