Paladins and 1.9
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MongoJerry,Dec 8 2005, 05:50 PM Wrote:If you believe that, you must lose a lot in PvP.  Paladins are best at *living*, buffing, and supporting their teams.  There's no class better at it.  I can definitely see paladin players having issues with the PvE experience in that in a well functioning party, the damage is generally directed at a warrior, so their ability to live far longer than any other class doesn't come in to play.  However, the support skills that paladins have are good in PvE and the ability to live through just about anything (on the short time scales that are PvP fights) is overwhelmingly powerful in PvP...
...As you can see, there are only two classes in the game who can effectively dispel most crowd control spells and damage dot's, and paladins with their ability to live and additionally cure poisons are far better at it than priests are in PvP.  This is why Alliance wins at PvP in any game involving equally skilled players.
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Oh we dance this dance over and over again. I have never, nor will i, said that the paladins abilities to dispell debuffs is not a strong one. What i will say, and i will argue for eternity is that this ability is extraordinarly limited by situation and circumstance. At present the greatest boon to this ability is the inclusion of the Decursive Add-on. Without that the paladins ability to effect the battlefield by dispelling on thier party becomes nearly inconsequential. the time it takes to target between players is really what that comes down to as well as the loss of mana efficiency when Decursive leaves.

Secondly, the amount of times that i've fought an equally sided match in skill level and was able to get the most out of my strengths is personally few and far between. For every time that i've been able to use my abilities in the way you describe there are 10 times where i'm hit by a counterspell or kicked by a rogue silencing me for most of the battle. The reality is that these OFFENSIVE abilities are out there in much more abundance and if used wisely and properly can destroy any hope i have of using my defensive abilities to help my group.
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Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-08-2005, 04:56 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Treesh - 12-08-2005, 05:03 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 06:15 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by kandrathe - 12-08-2005, 06:25 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 06:37 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 08:10 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Dozer - 12-08-2005, 09:16 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-08-2005, 09:27 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-08-2005, 10:33 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by MongoJerry - 12-08-2005, 10:50 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Dozer - 12-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-08-2005, 11:40 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Frag - 12-08-2005, 11:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-09-2005, 12:28 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 01:02 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-09-2005, 02:24 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-09-2005, 03:16 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 04:12 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 04:25 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-09-2005, 06:14 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tuftears - 12-09-2005, 08:13 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by MongoJerry - 12-09-2005, 09:06 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 09:43 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 11:41 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Brista - 12-09-2005, 01:28 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Arnulf - 12-09-2005, 02:19 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 02:31 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-09-2005, 02:59 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Lissa - 12-09-2005, 03:19 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 04:07 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 04:11 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-09-2005, 05:45 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-09-2005, 06:32 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 06:34 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-09-2005, 06:39 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 07:48 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 07:55 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-09-2005, 08:04 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by MongoJerry - 12-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Frag - 12-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-09-2005, 10:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Brista - 12-10-2005, 12:56 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Brista - 12-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Drasca - 12-10-2005, 03:10 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-10-2005, 05:38 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-10-2005, 08:01 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-10-2005, 08:14 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-10-2005, 10:39 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Riot - 12-10-2005, 03:42 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tal - 12-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-10-2005, 07:38 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-10-2005, 09:18 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-10-2005, 10:48 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-11-2005, 01:46 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-11-2005, 02:54 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-11-2005, 02:59 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Concillian - 12-11-2005, 06:38 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Riot - 12-11-2005, 05:34 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-11-2005, 06:31 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Frag - 12-11-2005, 06:33 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-12-2005, 07:05 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Drasca - 12-12-2005, 03:13 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 02:24 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by lfd - 12-13-2005, 04:17 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 10:16 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Xukuth - 12-13-2005, 11:32 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-13-2005, 11:41 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Kevin - 12-13-2005, 11:58 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Xukuth - 12-14-2005, 12:17 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-14-2005, 12:26 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Xukuth - 12-14-2005, 12:30 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by lfd - 12-14-2005, 01:08 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tuftears - 12-14-2005, 01:18 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-14-2005, 07:11 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Quark - 12-14-2005, 08:01 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 08:28 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Lissa - 12-14-2005, 08:37 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Drasca - 12-14-2005, 09:16 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 09:27 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Rinnhart - 12-15-2005, 12:26 AM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Chesspiece_face - 12-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-16-2005, 04:01 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by Tuftears - 12-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Paladins and 1.9 - by savaughn - 12-19-2005, 12:41 PM

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