Razorgore Thoughts

[Skandranon]

Please post with your experiences on the encounter and if you have any suggestions (what went right, what went wrong), post em.  Lurkers with experience beating Razorgore should also chime in if they have golden strat nuggets to pass on.  I don't believe we failed last night due to lack of equipment; you could make that argument for Ragnaros, but not here.
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I agree, Razorgore isn't a gear-dependent fight. You could beat him in blues if you'd had enough practice. There are guilds (not on Stormrage, but on other servers), who've beaten Razorgore but not Rag.

As for strat to pass on...well, you understand the encounter completely (or at least as completely as I do). There's very little of value that anyone not in Avarice can add; part of the Razorgore learning process is figuring out what works for your group and learning to do it. Browse the official Raids and Dungeons forum and you'll see a lot of posts along the lines of, "oh, I watched a Razorgore video and my guild has tried it 40 times and can't beat it!" Unlike just about any other encounter in the game, you can't simply lift someone else's strategy and try to paste it on to your own raid group - it just doesn't work. What does work is exactly what you're doing right now - making practice runs, seeing what went wrong, talking about how to fix it.

There are literally as many ways to beat Razorgore as there are different actions you can take. Which one you pick depends on your class mix, which of your players are most skilled, and what the players' levels of equipment are. By this I don't mean that the Razorgore fight is gear-dependent or that Avarice players are unskilled. The fact is, some Avarice players are better geared than other Avarice players; some Avarice players are more skilled than other Avarice players. These factors will influence your strategy and affect how the responsibilities are assigned.

You've grasped the essence of the fight. Razorgore phase 1 is simply about control. There are always going to be 40 mobs in the room; twelve dragonkin and twenty-eight orcs. Kill a mob and there will be one to replace it in at most eight seconds. You only need to find the answers to four questions.

1) How do we stop Dragonkin from killing us?
2) How do we stop Mages from killing us?
3) How do we stop Legionnaires from killing us?
4) How do we make 1-3 last for three minutes?

And when you wipe, the key question to ask is: which element of the fight killed us - dragonkin, mages, or legionnaires? How do we fix our plan for dealing with that element so that they don't kill us next time? And then adjust. After more practice - probably, lots more practice - you'll arrive at your strategy, and you'll be able to pull it off and win every time.