Razorgore Thoughts

[Kevin]

[*]Perhaps some other CC tricks, like engineering gadgets to stun, MC helmets on the mages, using the razorgores platform to jump off of to get more distance for kiting, target dummies, thornling seeds, etc.
[*]Perhaps warriors saving their mob aggro shouts for the latest possible time where they will grab the most number, and being positioned so that there is little overlap in shouts and priest fearing.
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We did use the platform by the orb or at least the ramps for more distance. Well I was using the platform after Quark said that with the controller on the ground the cleaves of a kited mob didn't hit them.

I did try to use my shout to get the most mobs (and I took the path closer to the middle to get more mobs a few times) but this is so much easier said than done because if you deviate from the path too much and start getting hit by that kite pile (and the mobs end up "stacking" so if you are in range of one you are probably in rage of about 15) you are probably dead when you get hit. Also with some damage having been done to some of the melee mobs one shout wasn't always enough to get them. Rank 1 frost nova seems to be weak enough on aggro that I can get the stuff with just one shout. This is something that will need to be tested though and it can be tested on mobs in Loch Modan or anywhere too, just have any mage use rank 1 FN and then have a warrior dem shout and see where it goes when the nova breaks. If the mob goes to the warrior then rank 1 FN on the edges of the DPS near the kiters will be awesome.

More CC is good but again you should only be CC'ing in an emergency or to help keep the mages under control until DPS can get to them. If you get melee aggro you need to kite it to a warrior. They don't run faster than you so if you get any distance on them they won't attack you again. I only got attacked by things in the kite path when I stopped for too long on a platform to make sure they were heading up it or had to change path a bit to pick up a new mob. Since I know my dem shout already does more aggro than a single sleep or a single sheeping I don't mind the use of that for CC on anything but priority should be non tanked mages also if we only sheep mages then a tank or other DPS caller (and I had hunters doing this for the hold the corners) can just pick and pop sheep. Simpler is better too. This is one of the reasons the kiting worked better, peoples jobs were simplier.

The idea on the kite is that eventually, everything will be following the 2 warriors and that the rest of the raid is standing around doing nothing till the eggs are all broken. And yes, if I don't have to pick up new mobs and I don't screw up my kite path then I shouldn't even need any healing. Though I don't know know if we can get it to all 40 melee mobs before the eggs are all broken. But that is the ideal. Two warriors running around, one person controlling the orb and the other 37 people sitting around bored. :)