How Widespread is this Point of View?
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Flymo,Nov 5 2005, 10:18 AM Wrote:It has certainly assimilated muslims.  Here in Britain we have around 2 million of them, thanks to once having had an empire, and that of course answers the question why the first European suicide bombers were British.   Most of them have integrated and the only way I know which of my children's friends are muslim is that  they don't eat lunch in Ramadan.  A minority of course have not, and when we have our own occasional race riot (most recently between blacks and muslims) it is usually where there is a ghetto of immigrants who have formed their own self-sufficient and insular community.
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Whoa, I said "assimilated Islam" and you said "assimilated Muslims" That is NOT the same thing. I don't eat meat on Fridays, in deference to my wife's faith, but that doesn't make me Catholic. Plus, you can't assimilate a religion into a secular society, as it does not accept Faith but rather treats it as a behavior (and some secularists treat it as a delusional disorder) nor can you assimilate Islam into a Christian society, due to the fundamental tenets of both Faiths. You have to CHOOSE one or the other.

The issue that the author raises, perhaps uninetentionally, is why Muslims dont feel they have to assimilate into European culture, whatever that is yet again, and why that attitude is considered valid within the social context. Why are they allowed to import Islam into Europe when for the past 200 years, secular, Enlightenment, post French Revolution Eurpoe has been waging war on Catholicism in particular and Christianity in general. Where is the consistency? (OK, so the Austrian Emperors and the French Emperor Louis Napoleon supported the Pope until Garibaldi kicked enough arse to close out that option while Bismarck put paid to both the Austrian wankers and Louis Napoleon . . .)

Furthermore, there is no quid pro quo in Muslim nations. Try putting up a Christmas tree in Saudi Arabia. The Church Police will bust your arse.

The tolerance does not mirror from culture to culture. How then, is any sense of "fairness" to be concluded from the current state of play?

Oh, and speaking of play, how about that fun and games in Paris?

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How Widespread is this Point of View? - by eppie - 11-02-2005, 02:47 PM
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