Avarice vs. Ragnaros

[Kevin]

Could we do more damage if we dedicated some people to healing and told the others to go DPS on trash mobs?  Would druids do better in the tank healing parties?  I've heard some people say that druids can do well with tanks.
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Against trash mobs I usually don't even bother to heal with my druid unless we are really short on healers. Even a resto spec druid will probably do more damage than a holy/disc or disc/holy priest in nuke mode. The druid can also pop into cat form and play mini rogue on some mob types to help. Of course unless things go wrong (LoS, people not ready for the pull, etc) you can pretty much get away with just one healer for most of the trash mobs in MC with our current gearing levels.

Doing a more formal rotation would probably allow the healers to throw out more DPS and would cut down on too much healing to an injured target if healers that weren't in the MT rotations just healed their groups. But more DPS for the trash mobs doesn't really matter. At our current speeds it could save us all of a minute or two getting to a boss I think.

On the boss fights we have been more formal lately and we have been utilizing the druids a bit better though still treating them more as innervate batteries but we are still putting druids on the tanks who will be tanking the longest, we did this even when I didn't have innervate on our first take down of domo and while it got close it still worked. Of course some of the problem with the druids being more primary healers is the tanks getting used to it. Seeing more dips and spikes in their life. I've heard both Anadrol and Darian call out for healing with 2000 HP left still on mobs that will only crit for at most 1500. My heal is coming, it will land and you will live even if you get double crits.

Last night I used a lot of rejuv on people when they were at around 70% life. Sometimes that prevented another heal landing. But I was constantly using rejuv. 62% of my healing still came from healing touches, 30% from rejuv and 8% from regrowth (the mana inefficient frontloaded HoT). Healing touch was mostly rank 7 for touch ups because I can actually get that 3.0 second cast to land when I couldn't get the 3.5 to land in the past. :) I only had about 13% overhealing which is to be expected because I have my cut off set for my lower rank of healing touch so if I did use a higher. I used regrowth when I was in the druid/priest combo on the offtanks because I knew the HoT would run most of the time (making the mana eff not bad) and I did sometimes use my top rank healing touch there. I know that healing Seiki as an off tank on the dogs in the Golemag fight was ridiculously easy. So easy in fact that I used my innervate on one of Anadrols healers and moved myself to get in range of him on Golemag where I used a nature swiftness top rank healing touch on him at one point. There were times in my duo with Onan healing Anadrol in the Domo fight that I did wait a bit too long to do some of the heals and I think Onan threw some in there on me when I was doing the healing but I didn't need them to be there. I was just pushing the limits. :)

I often get about 4 or 5 heals just as I'm about to back off and bandage, so overhealing is happening.

You might be surprised at how little of that might be overhealing though. It could be a paladin flash of light hitting you for 300 or so health, a low rank druid heal hitting you for 800 or so and then a couple of priest flash heals in the 1000 or so range. So it might only be 3100-4000 health coming from those 4 or 5 heals that did land on you some of them may be HoTs as well so potentially less overheal there too. I know that when I'm doing an emergency heal on someone outside my watch that I throw a lower rank or weaker heal at them just to buy time for the bigger heal that I'm sure is coming or as a part of a bunch of smaller heals. I even use lower ranks of regrowth for this since it is a faster cast.

This actually varies considerably: I usually have more druids available than priests for Zul'gurub runs.

I can believe it is true for ZG but it has never been the case for a 40 man that we had more druids than priests. We have had the same number and there was an Ony run that was 2 priest, 2 druids and 6 paladins where the paladins did a lot of the healing. I also don't think healers are as critical in ZG though there are still several encounters in there I have not seen. But the trash mobs there really aren't that much more difficult than trash in UBRS/scholo/strat.