11-03-2005, 10:12 PM
Darian,Nov 2 2005, 04:47 AM Wrote:Okay, so the problem with GuildedDKP is only going to show up for the person who has currently claimed Master status via GetDKP, as we're issued a request from every person who logs in using GuildedDKP to broadcast the point list to them. (If Quark is master, I don't get the request, he does. If I'm master, the reverse.)
Here's the thing: I also run both mods, and I've never noted a performance hit of any kind -- not even during raids where I have claimed Master status by virtue of logging in after Quark. However, I have NOT been running GEM, while Quark has been.
QED.
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Sorry but that is a painfully weak argument with what you have presented and I would have expected much better from you. You are appear to be working on many assumptions from my perspective.
Do you and Quark have the same types of computers to be playing off of? Same types of mainboards, processors, RAM, HDD data storage? Are you both running the smae operating system with the same background programs outside of WoW? Somehow I really doubt this point.
Do you run the exact same suite of mods on all levels except for the use of GEM? Somehow I doubt this too since Quark has been rather active mostly only on a different mix of characters than I have noted for you. For example to finally fix why my system was not able to get the wardrobe screen to open off of chat links (any channel) I ended up tracking the problem to the mod Enchantrix which is for tracking what magic items get disenchanted into. Not something that would in any obvious way cause problems with the use of a chat system. So there can be other things working in Quarks host of mods that is making it more unstable for him to have something like GuildedDKP running.
On the Master status of the the GuildedDKP are you sure you have been put to the same stress of requests that Quark has. I have no census of who is using it to get requests from you or Quark. It did not sound like there was even a message so that you would know that someone was actually polling you at the time. If you came in after Quark and he was having problems, could it not be that those that wanted the information had not already gotten it from him. I doubt from what I saw of the GuildedDKP in use, that a single request from anyone would likely cause any noticeable problems for any master that was on a halfway decent computer. But if it does not use a good method to act as a traffic cop for outgoing data, then if several users opt to request data at the same time then there could be problems. Like when players start fidgeting around after the warders and before the main Onyxia attack while the party is starting to buff up and wait while a last few straglers get there.
On the other hand I have been looking at the type of chat traffic that GEM has been generating and how much it is depending on it. Most of what it does is the same as Guilded, but so far appears to be getting called on a lot less. Main difference in what it does transmit in chat is the data that is hidden by the code for what to do with the data and that is to be expected since it is supplying a different type of information. When it does load at start it sends out a message that is essentially a "Hi, I am here" which is about the same as Guilded. Generally after that exachange and any tells that are sent to update the events, the only time that a player sends any message is if they are changing a zone boundry, again same as Guilded. Other that that it has just hung back waiting for any new events in that channel. From what I can see compared to Guilded that is the same types of communication signals and generally a lot quiter than all the other spam that is circulating on the Guilded channel with all the various mods that at times are sending a variety of messages out on an all to frequent basis.
If you want to do something that I would consider worthy of a Q.E.D. closure on your post, then do a set of controlled tests on the matter. Things like several players all spamming Quark for DKP info while he has GEM installed and when he does not. Do the same set of test in the same manner against your system too. Get some real comparative data to use that helps eliminate the differences that are likely there between your hardware and software on your systems.