How Widespread is this Point of View?
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eppie,Nov 3 2005, 03:48 AM Wrote:It is however true that a lot of people think different about that and are especially scared and against more arabians in our country. But thus is a point that is not related to europe whatsoever. Most of the immigration of turks and morocans happened in the 70s and 80s and is becoming less and less.
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EDITED for further development. Sorry to re do the post.

But it does. Those immigrants breed, and inculcate in their children either their native culture, a mandate to assimilate (as my grandmother did when she emigrated to the US) or a slight fusion of the two. It seems that the usual approach is not assimilationist, but I wonder if that generalization is a function of view point. Why is this important? Religion still, whether we like it or not, has an effect on the common cultural assumptions people carry about within themselves from day to day. If you come from a culture where religion is prominent, you may be very uncomfortable assimilating into a scarcely religious, or non religious, culture. Likewise, the less similar two base religions are, the harder it is to transition from one to another unless the appeal to transition is compelling.

The reluctance to assimilate has a profound cultural impact on Europe (for better and worse) since demographically, the immigrants tend to breed at a higher rate. (In the American Southwest, this simple fact of birth rate gives LaRaza and others a vision of winning what they call "the battle of the cradle" within the next two generations.)

You may not see how that moves the NL to a place in Eurabia, but I think some Frenchmen and some Italians might see things differently, as well as some Spaniards, based on their demographic breakdowns.

Which takes me to the question, again, of why an immigrant culture becomes "protected" by policy (even if not in the hearts and minds of many average citizens) while the native "culture" (again, a very loose term, as we both seem to agree) is either condemned, or presented as flawed. Why no emhpasis or encouragement on assimilation? Or, is it there and just hard to see?

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How Widespread is this Point of View? - by eppie - 11-02-2005, 02:47 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by eppie - 11-03-2005, 09:48 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Ashock - 11-03-2005, 04:50 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Occhidiangela - 11-03-2005, 07:20 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Jester - 11-04-2005, 12:23 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Ashock - 11-04-2005, 01:01 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Assur - 11-04-2005, 04:24 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by eppie - 11-04-2005, 09:05 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Flymo - 11-04-2005, 01:22 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Ashock - 11-04-2005, 06:05 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by eppie - 11-05-2005, 11:58 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Flymo - 11-05-2005, 02:57 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Flymo - 11-05-2005, 04:18 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Guest - 11-05-2005, 04:34 PM
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How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Jester - 11-07-2005, 05:24 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Ashock - 11-07-2005, 05:48 PM
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How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Guest - 11-07-2005, 10:10 PM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by Jester - 11-08-2005, 12:35 AM
How Widespread is this Point of View? - by eppie - 11-08-2005, 08:26 AM
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