GEM vs Guilded Raider

[Ruvanal]

Quark ran into some very obnoxious problems with this mod the other night (which I'll let him explain).

I think the sad fact of the matter is that mods like this which depend on transmitting updating data to people are just not workable from the client side.  It would be nice if Blizzard could set up infrastructure for guild linking and raid management so that the server is sending this information (and storing the raid data).  It wouldn't be that hard -- here at work, this is what we DO, and I know what's involved -- but it would require both knowledge of how to do it properly and hardware, which they probably would rather not invest in.
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I am not sure what problems that Quark was attributing to GEM on that Onyxia run. I on the other hand have been noticing some severe problems with a couple of the Guilded addons: GuildedPlayerTracker and GuildedDKP.

With the GuildedPlayerTracker addon, everyone that has it installed is spamming the channel with at least 2 tells per second to update their postion to everyone; that can be a lot of spam if several are on line at the same time with this. This has been severe enough on my client to process that I can get a anywhere from a couple of extra FPS to a +50% increase in FPS by switching to an unused channel or just turning off Guilded altogether.

For the GuildedDKP, I had just tried it out that day. Looking to see how to get it to show information, I hit the button to find a master list and ended up getting a massive spam of tells from Quark with the information that he had. The amount of spam, does not look like it had very much compression associated with it, nor was it clear if there were any time delays being used to avoid spam issues. This was done while in the lair prior to the first warded being pulled. I did not notice if this was one of the times that had Quark getting dropped or not. I would not like to think what his client would need to be doing if more than 1 person at time was trying to get an update. Later at the end of the run I noticed that module went spastic with error messages when one player left. The amount of spam from that alone suggest that it is sending a large amount of tells over the channel on a regular basis and does not have good error checking to avoid tying up the client if things do not look 'right' to the module.

As of now, both of these I will not be having installed anymore. While the DKP information would have been nice to look at, it was not needed in my opion except to the raid leaders at loot distribution time. It is also worth noting that at this time Sij (writer of Guilded) has offically abandoned any further work on the Guilded project and recomended the other go and use the GuildAds mod instead. He also gave permission to the author of that mod to take whatever functionality out of Guilded that they felt like to make the GuildAds function better. Not sure I like in the long run to depending too much on a group of mods that is not going to have some serious support backing it up, particularly when I know that 2 of the mod add ons to it are capable causing as much excess chat spam as I have seen those 2 generate.

edit: P.S.
Just found this note on the Curse Gaming site concerning the GuildedDKP.

10/28/2005 - 12:29:54 PM
Keltor
Frag the Master I use GuildedDKP with GetDKP (i'm the DKP master) and all non master can push a "frag master" button who kick me out of game.
does any1 have the same problem?
its not funny if players can kick me OOG while i looting epics ;)

This sounds a lot like the spam I saw using that module and what appeared to happening to Quark from my perspective.