10-25-2005, 01:27 PM
For some bizarre reason, Daelo, one of the Blizz game designers, decided to answer a fairly random question in the raid forum. What's more, what he said there fairly directly contradicts the general impression on stacking threat reduction. Specifically:
And later:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...8&p=#post205139
Something to be aware of. I know I've been "corrected" that subtlety and BoS don't stack around here before so I think this is new info. My guess is that each threat reduction piece is being applied individually - from a programming perspective doing that would be easier than trying to keep track of a total overall reduction "state" and applying at the end. If that's the case then with, say, BoS, MD, and Nemesis instead of getting 30%+20%+20% for 70% you'd end up with a 30% + 20%*70% + 20%*56% for a total of around 55%. Similarly if you applied arcane subtlety and BoS this way you end up with around 58% reduction.
That's just a guess, though. To test it, we're gonna need a pally, a mage, and a priest w/o subtlety...
<edit: forgot - the other reason this would make sense is that the results are commutative so it doesn't matter what order you apply the reductions>
Quote:- "Stacking" of threat reduction effects. Every single one of them I tested stack. This includes the Netherwind bonus, Arcane Subtlety, Blessing of Salvation, Nemesis Bonus, and Master Demonologist. However, note that they don't always stack in the way you might hope. You don't add all the percentages up, then apply the combined multiplier to the damage your spell does to obtain threat. So if you have Blessing of Salvation (30%), Master Demonologist (20%), and the Nemesis set bonus (20%), you aren't generating just 30% of your normal threat. The true number is something a bit higher. The specific details of the stacking are something I'll pursue further with the class team and programmers to make sure we're happy with how they're working, but the important thing is that each bonus does provide a significant threat reduction.
And later:
Quote:I did test Arcane Sublety. It stacks with Netherwind and Blessing of Salvation, too. I edited the larger post to reflect this.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...8&p=#post205139
Something to be aware of. I know I've been "corrected" that subtlety and BoS don't stack around here before so I think this is new info. My guess is that each threat reduction piece is being applied individually - from a programming perspective doing that would be easier than trying to keep track of a total overall reduction "state" and applying at the end. If that's the case then with, say, BoS, MD, and Nemesis instead of getting 30%+20%+20% for 70% you'd end up with a 30% + 20%*70% + 20%*56% for a total of around 55%. Similarly if you applied arcane subtlety and BoS this way you end up with around 58% reduction.
That's just a guess, though. To test it, we're gonna need a pally, a mage, and a priest w/o subtlety...
<edit: forgot - the other reason this would make sense is that the results are commutative so it doesn't matter what order you apply the reductions>